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I am a bit at a loss for words. > "Everybody who is participating in this violence, what really amounts to an insurrection, should be held accountable," says t
by zaroth 6y ago
I am a bit at a loss for words.
> "Everybody who is participating in this violence, what really amounts to an insurrection, should be held accountable," says the site's creator, who asked for anonymity to avoid retaliation.
6,000 people didn’t storm the capital. Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists?
I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel.
- ganoushoreilly 6y agoI can't help but imagine how this would play out if someone did the same for any of the Riots this past year. It's a slippery slope and people are justifying doing things that would normally be considered wrong. Tech is great, but it's a shame how much it's being used to amplify and escalate all these tensions. What is the intent here? To be a public investigation force? Is that what we really want? How many times have we seen these things backfire (IE Boston Bomber and Reddit.. etc.) Nothing good will come of all of this and it's disheartening that a large portion of the population is behind it simply because they feel they're in the right.
- mansion7 6y agoAntifa actively attempted to block media from photographing rioters, looters, and arsonists, and attacked numerous photojournalists ho refused to comply.
- approxim8ion 6y agoYes, card carrying members of Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd. did that. It's certainly not standard protest behavior to avoid things like the parent post, or actual law enforcement violence.
- mansion7 6y agoIt's not. Flippant responses aside, Antifa went above and beyond standard protest response in suppression of and violence toward photojournalist.
- approxim8ion 6y agoYou've already decided that, and your past comments make it very clear where you stand so I'm not going to try and change your mind.
- mansion7 6y agoI decided it based upon reasoned perusal of available evidence, as any rational being must... But were I undecided, your "Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd." would be unlikely to sway me, as it mocks the very idea that Antifa organizes in any cohesive fashion (when we can see on Twitter, Facebook, and other such avenues that they clearly do)
- aedanman 6y agoThe problem with publicly posting their photos is it completely negates any fair justice. There is no trial. They are already presented as guilty. Then who defines how they should be held accountable? The general public? That is not how justice works.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> The problem with publicly posting their photos is it completely negates any fair justice. Both private and government posting of pictures (or drawings from descriptions) of people suspected to be involved in or of interest related to a crime, without any kind of prior judicial process or clearance, is routine, not punishment, and doesn’t alter the role of process required for punishment. It does not “negate fair justice”. Nor are they “presented as guilty” on this site, even in the sense that people might be said to be “presented as guilty” when featured in a wanted poster. > Then who defines how they should be held accountable? A court, as usual. The page ask for rioters identified by the combination of still face photo and linked video to be reported to the FBI, and provide the FBI’s tip link.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists? The site doesn’t do that, and explicitly links the source video for each face. > I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel. If they are the party that actually filmed it, they’d be better off suing for copyright violations (though a fair use defense may well exist), as this clearly isn’t even approximately libel.