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Wouldn't it be great though if there was such a platform where you could lose your cool with someone without having to be banned, moderated, etc. The ad-hominem

Wouldn't it be great though if there was such a platform where you could lose your cool with someone without having to be banned, moderated, etc. The ad-hominem part of the argument would be simply flagged as such. Kind of like Westminster parlimentary debate - insults fly all the time, but no one can be cancelled or banned.

metiscus 6y ago
You can be asked to leave for the remainder of the day under the standing rules if you violate certain points of etiquette.
- debator 6y ago
  But you'll be back the next day. Can you be banned without the chamber voting on it in some way?
  - metiscus 6y ago
    See standing rules 42 through 46 but in particular 44 (2) which reads If any Member be suspended under paragraph (1) of this order, his suspension on the first occasion shall continue for five sitting days, and on the second occasion for twenty sitting days, including in either case the day on which he was suspended, but, on any subsequent occasion, until the House shall resolve that the suspension of such Member do terminate. I believe this can only be done in response to a motion and vote. The authority to unilaterally order a member to withdraw is only for one day see 43. So you are correct. https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/commons/standing-orders-public11/ https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/commons/stan...
goldenManatee 6y ago
No. Unmoderated and anonymous dialog has a way of straying into mudslinging on subjects of political expression. From your suggestion: flagging the “ad hominem part” is moderation and could be open to interpretation if flagged statements are or not. Thus brings to mind Burke, “The majority of the citizens is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the minority.” True as that is, though, there’s been a growing popularization across groups for adopting a victimhood complex to feel justified in claiming oppression. So, no - ironic to post here, but actually cogent debate requires a base degree of mutual respect - which requires a shared (global) “culture” - and less anonymity.
tobylane 6y ago
That’s not what to take away from the Westminster system. They famously used the term ‘tired and emotional’ to mean drunk but that’s banned now too. Yesterday at prime ministers questions Johnson used terms like Captain Hindsight, which many believe should have been dealt with at the time by the Speaker. One who says these rude words by a very low bar is the focus of attention for a minute as the Speaker tells them off and the obligatory apology happens. If you could implement all that I’d have a look in. Maybe you were thinking of parliamentary privilege? They can say things in debate that are banned outside for being trade or some state secrets, like the existence of the BT tower.

metiscus 6y ago

You can be asked to leave for the remainder of the day under the standing rules if you violate certain points of etiquette.

debator 6y ago
But you'll be back the next day. Can you be banned without the chamber voting on it in some way?
- metiscus 6y ago
  See standing rules 42 through 46 but in particular 44 (2) which reads If any Member be suspended under paragraph (1) of this order, his suspension on the first occasion shall continue for five sitting days, and on the second occasion for twenty sitting days, including in either case the day on which he was suspended, but, on any subsequent occasion, until the House shall resolve that the suspension of such Member do terminate. I believe this can only be done in response to a motion and vote. The authority to unilaterally order a member to withdraw is only for one day see 43. So you are correct. https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/commons/standing-orders-public11/ https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/commons/stan...

goldenManatee 6y ago

No. Unmoderated and anonymous dialog has a way of straying into mudslinging on subjects of political expression. From your suggestion: flagging the “ad hominem part” is moderation and could be open to interpretation if flagged statements are or not. Thus brings to mind Burke, “The majority of the citizens is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the minority.” True as that is, though, there’s been a growing popularization across groups for adopting a victimhood complex to feel justified in claiming oppression. So, no - ironic to post here, but actually cogent debate requires a base degree of mutual respect - which requires a shared (global) “culture” - and less anonymity.

tobylane 6y ago

That’s not what to take away from the Westminster system. They famously used the term ‘tired and emotional’ to mean drunk but that’s banned now too. Yesterday at prime ministers questions Johnson used terms like Captain Hindsight, which many believe should have been dealt with at the time by the Speaker. One who says these rude words by a very low bar is the focus of attention for a minute as the Speaker tells them off and the obligatory apology happens. If you could implement all that I’d have a look in. Maybe you were thinking of parliamentary privilege? They can say things in debate that are banned outside for being trade or some state secrets, like the existence of the BT tower.