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I feel like anywhere else in the world North Wales would be taken much more advantage of. It's a stunningly beautiful place, maybe one of the most beautiful in

by reedf1 6y ago

I feel like anywhere else in the world North Wales would be taken much more advantage of. It's a stunningly beautiful place, maybe one of the most beautiful in the world, but it is massively impoverished and undervisited and it is hard to understand why.

navaati 6y ago
Are you referring to the mountains in the south-west direction from Liverpool ? Lovely place, a true Voyage going there.
ficklepickle 6y ago
They don't really want visitors. They are quite upset that they have been covered in London newspapers in recent years. They're perfectly (un)happy just being weird and Welsh. I've spent a lot of time there and by best friend lives there.
mc32 6y ago
Tourism is a blessing and a curse. If you’re content with your way of life, you’ll probably prefer the status quo over change that causes “gentrification” and other maladies of progress.
richjdsmith 6y ago
I visited a couple years back. Did a week long drive through wales. It was absolutely gorgeous. I've been lucky enough to have been on a few holidays in both Scotland and Ireland for a few weeks at a time (I'm Canadian, but I lived in England for a just under a year). I found the people in Whales to be considerably less friendly than anywhere else in the British isles. To a point where I walked into a pub in a small town and people switched from speaking English to Welsh. I plan to return to Ireland and Scotland, but based on my experience with the Welsh, have no real desire to revisit Wales.
- hanoz 6y ago
  I'm sure they would have warmed up a bit if they'd realised you were Canadian. They probably assumed you were English, or, worse still, from a different part of Wales.
  - fungiblecog 6y ago
    This. When in Wales always make sure they know you're not English. You'll get a MUCH warmer reception
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- meigwilym 6y ago
  > I walked into a pub in a small town and people switched from speaking English to Welsh. I suspect they were already conversing in Welsh before you walked in. In fact, I've sat in many different pubs in North Wales, but not once did I switch from English to Welsh when someone walked in. I'd have no idea what languages they were capable of, and in any case would never be speaking in English with other Welsh speakers. I apologize for any snark, but we do get tired of this trope. Perhaps this sketch will lighten the atmosphere https://youtu.be/tJ5DzMmBuwQ https://youtu.be/tJ5DzMmBuwQ
  - salamanderman 6y ago
    I expect the same thing. My cousins and their friends just speak Welsh, but like anybody who's totally bilingual, they do randomly flip when a word or phrase comes faster in the other language.
- seanhunter 6y ago
  Fair enough if that is your experience but I don't recognise that at all. My parents (as English people) moved to North Wales and people have been extremely warm and welcoming to them and also to me whenever I have visited. There is some beautiful scenery and the many of the towns are also very run down. This problem is likely to get worse in the next few years as the development funding the region was getting from the EU will now cease due to brexit. I love these photos and there is a lot of truth in them. I myself have taken some amusingly bleak photos on the British coastline although clearly not as amazing as these.
acjohnson55 6y ago
Going to the Irish Atlantic Coast with my family made me want to visit Wales. I studied in Swansea in 2005, and took one trip up to North Wales. The Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland is extremely tourist friendly, and it would have been interesting to contrast it with Wales. From my memory, it's sparser, less catered to visitors, and more rugged and dramatic.
jamespwilliams 6y ago
It’s quite difficult to actually get there, for one...
craz8 6y ago
I’ve visited some of the “Best Beaches In The World” - Hawaii, Caribbean, Fiji - but none as good (as a beach) as some of those in Pembrokeshire (south west Wales) where I grew up Now, many had much better facilities, and often much larger crowds, but the beach aspect is pretty darn good. North Wales is nice too, I suppose If you’re not in the oil refining business though, good jobs are really hard to find, and everything is rundown compared to my childhood. Those “offseason” photos could now be taken at any time of the year

by reedf1 6y ago

navaati 6y ago

Are you referring to the mountains in the south-west direction from Liverpool ? Lovely place, a true Voyage going there.

ficklepickle 6y ago

They don't really want visitors. They are quite upset that they have been covered in London newspapers in recent years. They're perfectly (un)happy just being weird and Welsh. I've spent a lot of time there and by best friend lives there.

mc32 6y ago

Tourism is a blessing and a curse. If you’re content with your way of life, you’ll probably prefer the status quo over change that causes “gentrification” and other maladies of progress.

richjdsmith 6y ago

I visited a couple years back. Did a week long drive through wales. It was absolutely gorgeous. I've been lucky enough to have been on a few holidays in both Scotland and Ireland for a few weeks at a time (I'm Canadian, but I lived in England for a just under a year). I found the people in Whales to be considerably less friendly than anywhere else in the British isles. To a point where I walked into a pub in a small town and people switched from speaking English to Welsh. I plan to return to Ireland and Scotland, but based on my experience with the Welsh, have no real desire to revisit Wales.

hanoz 6y ago
I'm sure they would have warmed up a bit if they'd realised you were Canadian. They probably assumed you were English, or, worse still, from a different part of Wales.
- fungiblecog 6y ago
  This. When in Wales always make sure they know you're not English. You'll get a MUCH warmer reception
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meigwilym 6y ago
> I walked into a pub in a small town and people switched from speaking English to Welsh. I suspect they were already conversing in Welsh before you walked in. In fact, I've sat in many different pubs in North Wales, but not once did I switch from English to Welsh when someone walked in. I'd have no idea what languages they were capable of, and in any case would never be speaking in English with other Welsh speakers. I apologize for any snark, but we do get tired of this trope. Perhaps this sketch will lighten the atmosphere https://youtu.be/tJ5DzMmBuwQ https://youtu.be/tJ5DzMmBuwQ
- salamanderman 6y ago
  I expect the same thing. My cousins and their friends just speak Welsh, but like anybody who's totally bilingual, they do randomly flip when a word or phrase comes faster in the other language.
seanhunter 6y ago
Fair enough if that is your experience but I don't recognise that at all. My parents (as English people) moved to North Wales and people have been extremely warm and welcoming to them and also to me whenever I have visited. There is some beautiful scenery and the many of the towns are also very run down. This problem is likely to get worse in the next few years as the development funding the region was getting from the EU will now cease due to brexit. I love these photos and there is a lot of truth in them. I myself have taken some amusingly bleak photos on the British coastline although clearly not as amazing as these.

acjohnson55 6y ago

Going to the Irish Atlantic Coast with my family made me want to visit Wales. I studied in Swansea in 2005, and took one trip up to North Wales. The Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland is extremely tourist friendly, and it would have been interesting to contrast it with Wales. From my memory, it's sparser, less catered to visitors, and more rugged and dramatic.

jamespwilliams 6y ago

It’s quite difficult to actually get there, for one...

craz8 6y ago

I’ve visited some of the “Best Beaches In The World” - Hawaii, Caribbean, Fiji - but none as good (as a beach) as some of those in Pembrokeshire (south west Wales) where I grew up Now, many had much better facilities, and often much larger crowds, but the beach aspect is pretty darn good. North Wales is nice too, I suppose If you’re not in the oil refining business though, good jobs are really hard to find, and everything is rundown compared to my childhood. Those “offseason” photos could now be taken at any time of the year