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Did you consider to not get a license? You could perhaps download and execute Widevine pretending to be Firefox or Chrome. Is there advanced spying software in

Did you consider to not get a license? You could perhaps download and execute Widevine pretending to be Firefox or Chrome. Is there advanced spying software in Widevine preventing to do that?

smaddock 6y ago
I'm honestly not sure about the legality of downloading from another distributor. I do know that distribution requires a license [0]. The risk doesn't seem worth it to use such a workaround for a serious project though. [0] https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/master:third_party/widevine/LICENSE;drc=09e60eb5a0d274e6b3f2ce7bc5978bd51ec3734b https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/master:t...
- bonzini 6y ago
  Kodi downloads an entire ChromeOS image just to extract the widevine shared library, for example.
  - sli 6y ago
    Surely there's no way locking down distribution this much helps anything or anyone if working around the terms is simply some minor tedium that can be automated.
zucker42 6y ago
Potentially, there's a 5 year jail sentence for doing that[1]. [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1204 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1204
- mvolfik 6y ago
  The thing is he isn't circumventing copyright protection. He is just allowing it to play in his browser too, no downloading etc. I'm a legal noob, but there always was that "fair interests" like making stuff work on different devices/OSs (youtube-dl is hiding behind this a bit), would it not apply here?
  - smogcutter 6y ago
    “Legal noob” is definitely one way to say “I am absolutely not a lawyer”.
  - zucker42 6y ago
    The ambiguity here is why I said potentially. Does circumventing a technical measure mean to access the content without Widevine, or is using Widevine in an unintended way enough? However, the law quite clearly says that fair use doesn't matter; you can't break DRM even if you're not violating copyright.
- matheusmoreira 6y ago
  Imagine spending 5+ years in prison over copyright. I've seen news about violent criminals doing less time for violent crimes with actual victims.
- avmich 6y ago
  Let's rephrase: can you create a clone, a derivative work of a working OS browser, which only has DRM part not changed? I'm not sure if you're asking for technical or legal advice. If legal, then since most of us are not lawyers here, strictly speaking we can't judge if "Hello, world!" program will put us in jail or not.
  - zucker42 6y ago
    Probably not, at the very least since Widevine is licensed by Google.
- mcjkrw 6y ago
  Would it be legal if DRM is not shipped with the browser, but the user can download and install it separately (copy it manually to the browser folder)?

Did you consider to not get a license? You could perhaps download and execute Widevine pretending to be Firefox or Chrome. Is there advanced spying software in Widevine preventing to do that?

smaddock 6y ago

I'm honestly not sure about the legality of downloading from another distributor. I do know that distribution requires a license [0]. The risk doesn't seem worth it to use such a workaround for a serious project though. [0] https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/master:third_party/widevine/LICENSE;drc=09e60eb5a0d274e6b3f2ce7bc5978bd51ec3734b https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/master:t...

bonzini 6y ago
Kodi downloads an entire ChromeOS image just to extract the widevine shared library, for example.
- sli 6y ago
  Surely there's no way locking down distribution this much helps anything or anyone if working around the terms is simply some minor tedium that can be automated.

zucker42 6y ago

Potentially, there's a 5 year jail sentence for doing that[1]. [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1204 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1204

mvolfik 6y ago
The thing is he isn't circumventing copyright protection. He is just allowing it to play in his browser too, no downloading etc. I'm a legal noob, but there always was that "fair interests" like making stuff work on different devices/OSs (youtube-dl is hiding behind this a bit), would it not apply here?
- smogcutter 6y ago
  “Legal noob” is definitely one way to say “I am absolutely not a lawyer”.
- zucker42 6y ago
  The ambiguity here is why I said potentially. Does circumventing a technical measure mean to access the content without Widevine, or is using Widevine in an unintended way enough? However, the law quite clearly says that fair use doesn't matter; you can't break DRM even if you're not violating copyright.
matheusmoreira 6y ago
Imagine spending 5+ years in prison over copyright. I've seen news about violent criminals doing less time for violent crimes with actual victims.
avmich 6y ago
Let's rephrase: can you create a clone, a derivative work of a working OS browser, which only has DRM part not changed? I'm not sure if you're asking for technical or legal advice. If legal, then since most of us are not lawyers here, strictly speaking we can't judge if "Hello, world!" program will put us in jail or not.
- zucker42 6y ago
  Probably not, at the very least since Widevine is licensed by Google.
mcjkrw 6y ago
Would it be legal if DRM is not shipped with the browser, but the user can download and install it separately (copy it manually to the browser folder)?