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I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you. But I'm asking you to elaborate on specifically who some of those normal people are, and which specific freedom

I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you. But I'm asking you to elaborate on specifically who some of those normal people are, and which specific freedoms of theirs are being restricted.

bananabiscuit 6y ago
Well, from my perspective at least, it seems that democrats are assuming all the hundred or so million Trump supports are necessarily some combination of brainwashed, racist, or terrorist. And this response to the Capitol riot is one symptom of that kind of thinking where the actions of a few hundred people are being used to try to de-platform/cancel/boycott many tens of millions of people. The whole attitude seems very patronizing and condescending because the reality is almost all Trump supporters are “normal” people that don’t want pointless violence. This also causes a very unfortunate and potentially catastrophic feedback loop where Democrats project the actions of extremists onto all Republicans and convince themselves that all republicans need to be canceled/re-educated. This, I would not doubt, becomes a sort of self full-filling prophecy of possibly turning more fringe republicans extremist because they rightfully would feel they are being unjustly persecuted based purely on not even the views that they hold, but based on the views Democrats imagine that they hold.
- coolgeek 6y ago
  Nobody has an absolute legal right to use a platform. And no platform has an absolute legal right to be hosted by an infra provider. Both the platform and the provider are private sector actors with almost unlimited control/freedom over what they choose to allow on their property. You're on firmer ground if you argue a moral (rather than legal) right to these things. But to the extent that these moral rights have been violated, that deprivation was undertaken by private sector actors; not by the government or Democrats.

I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you. But I'm asking you to elaborate on specifically who some of those normal people are, and which specific freedoms of theirs are being restricted.

bananabiscuit 6y ago

Well, from my perspective at least, it seems that democrats are assuming all the hundred or so million Trump supports are necessarily some combination of brainwashed, racist, or terrorist. And this response to the Capitol riot is one symptom of that kind of thinking where the actions of a few hundred people are being used to try to de-platform/cancel/boycott many tens of millions of people. The whole attitude seems very patronizing and condescending because the reality is almost all Trump supporters are “normal” people that don’t want pointless violence. This also causes a very unfortunate and potentially catastrophic feedback loop where Democrats project the actions of extremists onto all Republicans and convince themselves that all republicans need to be canceled/re-educated. This, I would not doubt, becomes a sort of self full-filling prophecy of possibly turning more fringe republicans extremist because they rightfully would feel they are being unjustly persecuted based purely on not even the views that they hold, but based on the views Democrats imagine that they hold.

coolgeek 6y ago
Nobody has an absolute legal right to use a platform. And no platform has an absolute legal right to be hosted by an infra provider. Both the platform and the provider are private sector actors with almost unlimited control/freedom over what they choose to allow on their property. You're on firmer ground if you argue a moral (rather than legal) right to these things. But to the extent that these moral rights have been violated, that deprivation was undertaken by private sector actors; not by the government or Democrats.