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Some modern art does not stand on its own. It requires the expert explanation to transform it from garbage to art. For myself this is “clever art” and has littl
by jweir 6y ago
Some modern art does not stand on its own. It requires the expert explanation to transform it from garbage to art. For myself this is “clever art” and has little cultural value.
Damien Hirst once had a work on display and a janitor threw it out - because he truly thought it was garbage. My toddler daughter once “ruined” a Mathew Barney work on a wall - it was a smear of black jelly that she smeared some more. The guard quickly looked the other way while motioning us to leave.
Working in the gallery world I would read the epic descriptions of works for sale. A lot of ink went in to creating and describing the value of art works that had no apparent worth. It is fashion to be sold and adorn and tell your friends about.
Not all modern art is like this, some works can be appreciated for its intrinsic properties. But this requires more skill, and dedication, and is rather rare.
I value art similar to the rule about food - if your grandmother would recognize it as art then it probably is, if not then maybe not. And all things art - it boils down to opinion. This is mine.
- teddyh 6y agoThe same sentiment was also described here: http://absurdnotions.org/an20020724.gif http://absurdnotions.org/an20020724.gif http://absurdnotions.org/an20020731.gif http://absurdnotions.org/an20020731.gif http://absurdnotions.org/an20020814.gif http://absurdnotions.org/an20020814.gif (Images taken from (http://absurdnotions.org/page104.html http://absurdnotions.org/page104.html) and (http://absurdnotions.org/page105.html http://absurdnotions.org/page105.html))
- u678u 6y ago> Damien Hirst once had a work on display and a janitor threw it out Actually I thought it was Tracey Emin, I searched for it and it was both - and more other occurrences in other countries. https://www.bing.com/search?q=cleaner+throws+away+art&first=15 https://www.bing.com/search?q=cleaner+throws+away+art&first=...
- petre 6y agoOh that's the woman with the messy bed. Stuckists would like a word with YBA. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Nicholas_Serota_Makes_an_Acquisitions_Decision https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Nicholas_Serota_Makes_an... No wonder the janitor thought it was trash and threw it out.
- eindiran 6y ago> My toddler daughter once “ruined” a Mathew Barney work on a wall - it was a smear of black jelly that she smeared some more. That's a great story and gave me a good laugh. But with a lot of these pieces, there is a strong sense that the object isn't really the artwork, in the same way that a program isn't really the exact bits on my machine. Recently SFMOMA put up a Sol LeWitt, one of his "Wall Drawing" pieces, which involved some employee of the museum carefully painting it on the wall. At the end of the exhibit, the whole wall got painted back over. In my opinion (and that of the curators of SFMOMA), they weren't actually destroying a Sol LeWitt; the actual piece is something more abstract, including but not limited to the instructions used to paint it onto the wall. In the same way, most of the wall drawings of Matther Barney are about the act of drawing, not really the artifact that is the result: https://d2jv9003bew7ag.cloudfront.net/uploads/Matthew-Barney-Drawing-Restraint-5-documentation-still-photo-credits-Michael-Rees-image-courtesy-of-Gladstone-Gallery.jpg https://d2jv9003bew7ag.cloudfront.net/uploads/Matthew-Barney...
- jmcqk6 6y ago>For myself this is “clever art” and has little cultural value. We'd all be alot better if in circumstances like this, we would say "I don't personally value this" instead of "there is not value in this for anyone." If there weren't people that valued it, it wouldn't exist. The fact that it exists demonstrates a certain level of cultural value.