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You may be correct, but complaining that you will be down voted often leads to additional downvotes.
by jshevek 6y ago
You may be correct, but complaining that you will be down voted often leads to additional downvotes.
- sn_master 6y agoNot complaining, just pointing out the bias in this community.
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoThe 'bias' in this community is for demanding evidence, of which you have provided none. You said "I can say similar things about many of the Obama pardons" - well, if you can, do, otherwise, well, STFU. And I'm not being facetious. It's worth comparing Obama's (or any previous president's) process for granting pardons with Trump's.
- jshevek 6y agoThere are numerous simultaneous biases. IMO you are both correct.
- sn_master 6y ago> or any previous president's You mean like Bill Clinton who pardoned his brother's drug charges?
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoYes, exactly like that. That is a good, specific example that anyone can investigate and see how it compares to Trump's pardons. Still waiting on the examples from Obama that "you can say similar things about".
- sn_master 6y agoJames Robert Adelman? Teresa Clark?
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoOK, great: James Robert Adelman: pardoned after being convicted of embezzling from his company, sentenced to 12 years imprisonment, which he served. Teresa Clark: convicted of "Knowingly disposing of a firearm to a person convicted of a crime punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding one year (three counts); falsification of firearms purchase forms (two counts)", sentenced to 3 years probation and 1 year of house arrest which she served. I'm not sure what your point is in these examples. I couldn't find more details on the reasons for their pardons, but letting people clear their record well after they have served their time is a common use of pardons. None of that is true in the Anthony Levandowski case, or for that matter the slew of other pardons and commutations Trump gave to his close associates and cronies.
- sn_master 6y agoPoint of pardon is to restore one's rights such as voting and gun ownership and eligibility for public and other positions. Commutation is only one aspect of pardon. Most of yesterday's pardoned folks also either fully served or served a majority of their sentence.
- jshevek 6y agoRevising my statement: mentioning the probability of your comment being downvoted can bring more downvotes, independently of other biases.