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Paid a lot of money for that pardon I reckon even though he was clearly a criminal. The trump admin is such a sham. So glad that they are out of power - hopefu

Paid a lot of money for that pardon I reckon even though he was clearly a criminal. The trump admin is such a sham. So glad that they are out of power - hopefully forever for the sake of the Us.

tartoran 6y ago
That's what I was thinking too but it is possible he'd be pardoned by any other president for the right amount. I'd just think Trump would be the easiest to obtain a paid pardon from.
tartoran 6y ago
That's what I was thinking too but it is possible he'd be pardoned by any other president for the right amount. I'd just think Trump would be the easiest to obtain a paid pardon from. (cash-for-pardon)
medium_burrito 6y ago
As opposed to Mark Rich, who was a much bigger piece of shit?
- akhilcacharya 6y ago
  You're right, Steve Bannon is the better equivalent Marc Rich, except probably worse.
lokar 6y ago
I read some reporting that the going rate was only $20k, 10 up front and 10 after.
- perfmode 6y ago
  link?
  - lokar 6y ago
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons... Sorry, it was 100k, 50 up front: "A onetime top adviser to the Trump campaign was paid $50,000 to help seek a pardon for John Kiriakou, a former C.I.A. officer convicted of illegally disclosing classified information, and agreed to a $50,000 bonus if the president granted it, according to a copy of an agreement." And this is not to trump, but rather to his groupies to talk to him on your behalf. At least on paper. Still, probably a good value if you actually get it.
    - boringg 6y ago
      I also heard that Rudy's aide float $2M ... it's got to be the aides/close confidents who were trying to milk power.
- Strs2FillMyDrms 6y ago
  I'm a little bit confused.. I am ecuadorian (efefctively 3rd world), we manage ourselves in dollars. I live in a somewhat affluent side of a main city, even tho I am not rich myself, and on a daily basis I see cars which are 50k+, one behind the other. Even though this people are corrupt (most of them, tax evasion, etc..), I'd argue that US corruption would be on another different scale... 20k for a presidential pardon from the president of the US, that's the price of a Chinese manufactured brand new car.
  - boringg 6y ago
    It is a function of the current corrupt president and his close aides. This would never be the case on any of the former presidencies - presidential pardons aren't bought. It's such a sham that it is apparently something that can be bought and really speaks to the depths of depravity and how low the Trump presidency can go. I think the OP has the numbers wrong but regardless, it isn't something that should ever be bought.
Mauricebranagh 6y ago
Well hopefully it will lead to the end of this 17th/18th century relic. Fully implementing the spirt of the civil service reforms and and have 99% of current presidential appointments done on merit instead.

Paid a lot of money for that pardon I reckon even though he was clearly a criminal. The trump admin is such a sham. So glad that they are out of power - hopefully forever for the sake of the Us.

tartoran 6y ago

That's what I was thinking too but it is possible he'd be pardoned by any other president for the right amount. I'd just think Trump would be the easiest to obtain a paid pardon from.

tartoran 6y ago

That's what I was thinking too but it is possible he'd be pardoned by any other president for the right amount. I'd just think Trump would be the easiest to obtain a paid pardon from. (cash-for-pardon)

medium_burrito 6y ago

As opposed to Mark Rich, who was a much bigger piece of shit?

akhilcacharya 6y ago
You're right, Steve Bannon is the better equivalent Marc Rich, except probably worse.

lokar 6y ago

I read some reporting that the going rate was only $20k, 10 up front and 10 after.

perfmode 6y ago
link?
- lokar 6y ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons... Sorry, it was 100k, 50 up front: "A onetime top adviser to the Trump campaign was paid $50,000 to help seek a pardon for John Kiriakou, a former C.I.A. officer convicted of illegally disclosing classified information, and agreed to a $50,000 bonus if the president granted it, according to a copy of an agreement." And this is not to trump, but rather to his groupies to talk to him on your behalf. At least on paper. Still, probably a good value if you actually get it.
  - boringg 6y ago
    I also heard that Rudy's aide float $2M ... it's got to be the aides/close confidents who were trying to milk power.
Strs2FillMyDrms 6y ago
I'm a little bit confused.. I am ecuadorian (efefctively 3rd world), we manage ourselves in dollars. I live in a somewhat affluent side of a main city, even tho I am not rich myself, and on a daily basis I see cars which are 50k+, one behind the other. Even though this people are corrupt (most of them, tax evasion, etc..), I'd argue that US corruption would be on another different scale... 20k for a presidential pardon from the president of the US, that's the price of a Chinese manufactured brand new car.
- boringg 6y ago
  It is a function of the current corrupt president and his close aides. This would never be the case on any of the former presidencies - presidential pardons aren't bought. It's such a sham that it is apparently something that can be bought and really speaks to the depths of depravity and how low the Trump presidency can go. I think the OP has the numbers wrong but regardless, it isn't something that should ever be bought.

Mauricebranagh 6y ago

Well hopefully it will lead to the end of this 17th/18th century relic. Fully implementing the spirt of the civil service reforms and and have 99% of current presidential appointments done on merit instead.