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I wonder how all the Trump supporters on HNs (maybe 30% or so of commenters, no idea about lurkers) are reacting to this. Levadowski pardon, the spy, the swamp

I wonder how all the Trump supporters on HNs (maybe 30% or so of commenters, no idea about lurkers) are reacting to this. Levadowski pardon, the spy, the swamp, etc.

BitwiseFool 6y ago
My Republican friends are all angry that the last minute pardons are white collar criminals and hip-hop stars. They were really hoping for an Assange/Snowden pardon to stick it to the "deep state". But honestly at this point they're acting like drained husks and just feel so let down. I personally look at the pardon list and I'm at a loss for words. What a weird mix of scammers and celebrities.
santoshalper 6y ago
95% of them are already reshaping facts to fit their narrative. Maybe a few will start to see how much they were hoodwinked. Even those few won't be able to admit it until they figure out a way to save their ego.
throwaway876765 6y ago
I voted for Trump because his policies more closely align with my beliefs than any other candidate on my ballot. I am very disappointed in his response to the election results after it was clear there wasn't proof of enough fraud to change the result, and I'm very disappointed in the pardons.
- augustt 6y ago
  He telegraphed his intent to claim the election was rigged way before it happened so... I guess people just learn at different rates. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-complete-insult-list.html#2020-election https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-...
- fny 6y ago
  Please stop down voting posts like this. If we want HN to remain a welcome space for civil discourse for everyone, we need to respect other people's candid statements. Remember, Trump won 47% of the popular vote which likely includes a large number of HNers. We should not alienate those people.
  - randylahey 6y ago
    People who hold reprehensible ideas or support those who do, should be held to task, no matter how many of them there are.
    - zzleeper 6y ago
      I am op (asked the question) and even though I don't agree with throwaway, I appreciate him having the time to respond (so I upvoted.earlier to try to offset the downvotes). Im also downvoted btw, so this goes both ways.
    - VLM 6y ago
      Before the era of identity politics that was virtuous, not so much in an identity politics era.
    - PoignardAzur 6y ago
      This is ridiculous. How is graying out a comment on Hacker News "holding to task" anyone? The only result this achieves is telling these people with "reprehensible ideas" that they need to take their discussion elsewhere and avoid any communication with people who don't share their opinion. This is the opposite of productive.
  - xpe 6y ago
    I agree. But how do we get there? In my view, until Hacker News has a mechanism to capture different kinds of feedback; e.g.: 1. comment is well-written (even if I disagree) 2. comment is civil (even if not well-written and/or I disagree) we're going to have "lump all, some, or none of these factors together" voting.
  - x1ph0z 6y ago
- diveanon 6y ago
  I hope you are disappointed in yourself for having beliefs that align with a fascist who incited an insurrection against the United States.
  - 1024core 6y ago
    Not that disappointed, I bet. Same old story. "I'm shocked, shocked that there's gambling going on!"
    - diveanon 6y ago
      Don't forget, this is a time for unity! I'm not forgetting about the last 4 years anytime soon. There is nothing virtuous about ignoring and rationalizing intolerance.
rat87 6y ago
I mean Trump has always been incredibly corrupt, way more corrupt then "old washington" Drain the Swamp simply meant get rid of anyone against Trump, including goverment ethics watchdogs

I wonder how all the Trump supporters on HNs (maybe 30% or so of commenters, no idea about lurkers) are reacting to this. Levadowski pardon, the spy, the swamp, etc.

BitwiseFool 6y ago

My Republican friends are all angry that the last minute pardons are white collar criminals and hip-hop stars. They were really hoping for an Assange/Snowden pardon to stick it to the "deep state". But honestly at this point they're acting like drained husks and just feel so let down. I personally look at the pardon list and I'm at a loss for words. What a weird mix of scammers and celebrities.

santoshalper 6y ago

95% of them are already reshaping facts to fit their narrative. Maybe a few will start to see how much they were hoodwinked. Even those few won't be able to admit it until they figure out a way to save their ego.

throwaway876765 6y ago

I voted for Trump because his policies more closely align with my beliefs than any other candidate on my ballot. I am very disappointed in his response to the election results after it was clear there wasn't proof of enough fraud to change the result, and I'm very disappointed in the pardons.

augustt 6y ago
He telegraphed his intent to claim the election was rigged way before it happened so... I guess people just learn at different rates. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-complete-insult-list.html#2020-election https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-...
fny 6y ago
Please stop down voting posts like this. If we want HN to remain a welcome space for civil discourse for everyone, we need to respect other people's candid statements. Remember, Trump won 47% of the popular vote which likely includes a large number of HNers. We should not alienate those people.
- randylahey 6y ago
  People who hold reprehensible ideas or support those who do, should be held to task, no matter how many of them there are.
  - zzleeper 6y ago
    I am op (asked the question) and even though I don't agree with throwaway, I appreciate him having the time to respond (so I upvoted.earlier to try to offset the downvotes). Im also downvoted btw, so this goes both ways.
  - VLM 6y ago
    Before the era of identity politics that was virtuous, not so much in an identity politics era.
  - PoignardAzur 6y ago
    This is ridiculous. How is graying out a comment on Hacker News "holding to task" anyone? The only result this achieves is telling these people with "reprehensible ideas" that they need to take their discussion elsewhere and avoid any communication with people who don't share their opinion. This is the opposite of productive.
- xpe 6y ago
  I agree. But how do we get there? In my view, until Hacker News has a mechanism to capture different kinds of feedback; e.g.: 1. comment is well-written (even if I disagree) 2. comment is civil (even if not well-written and/or I disagree) we're going to have "lump all, some, or none of these factors together" voting.
- x1ph0z 6y ago
diveanon 6y ago
I hope you are disappointed in yourself for having beliefs that align with a fascist who incited an insurrection against the United States.
- 1024core 6y ago
  Not that disappointed, I bet. Same old story. "I'm shocked, shocked that there's gambling going on!"
  - diveanon 6y ago
    Don't forget, this is a time for unity! I'm not forgetting about the last 4 years anytime soon. There is nothing virtuous about ignoring and rationalizing intolerance.

rat87 6y ago

I mean Trump has always been incredibly corrupt, way more corrupt then "old washington" Drain the Swamp simply meant get rid of anyone against Trump, including goverment ethics watchdogs