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He's pardoned fewer people than all recent presidents except HW Bush: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/C330/production/_116586994_optimised-pres_par

• croon 6y ago
  Maybe the targets are more relevant than the number. 3000 minor drug offenses or 5 mob cronies.
  • mythrwy 6y ago
    Look at his pardon list from last night. It includes a large number of oversentenced drug offenders including a number of people serving life sentences for marijuana trafficking.
  • gadders 6y ago
    Go here and search for "drug" or "amphetamines". Quite a few non-violent drug offenders with stupid sentences getting pardoned: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-pr... EG: Corvain Cooper – President Trump commuted the sentence of Mr. Corvain Cooper. Mr. Cooper is a 41 year-old father of two girls who has served more than 7 years of a life sentence for his non-violent participation in a conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
    • croon 6y ago
      I have, and I know. The existence of those does not indicate anything about the existence of the other type.
      • gadders 6y ago
        I've found the drug users. You highlight the mob cronies.
        • croon 6y ago
          I was pointing out a flaw in your logic, not making a claim. For the sake of argument I could've used "child-eating lizard people".
          • gadders 6y ago
            Oh I see. A strawman.
            • croon 6y ago
              Not by any definition. You said he had pardoned fewer people than previous presidents. I said that the number of pardons had no bearing (on whether or not it's abused), and illustrated that point with a hypothetical. At no point have I made up an argument as yours to attack.
• mcrae 6y ago
  It is not the number of pardons that is unusual (and it’s unsurprising that this administration has done less work than previous ones), but the sense that these pardons are so clearly in service of Trump’s personal agenda rather than true acts of clemency. Can you find examples of bad pardons from other Presidents? No doubt. But not on this scale. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-11/why-presidential-pardons-are-normal-trump-s-less-so-quicktake https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-11/why-presi...
  • koolba 6y ago
    > Can you find examples of bad pardons from other Presidents? No doubt. But not on this scale. Which of these is worse than pardoning your own drug trafficking, drunk driving brother? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clinton_Jr.#Conviction_and_pardon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clinton_Jr.#Conviction_a...
    • NikolaeVarius 6y ago
      You mean the one where they already served the full federal sentence?
      • throwaway0a5e 6y ago
        That's it. It's also the one where having the record of the prior crime expunged made a huge difference in the potential sentence for the DUI he was being prosecuted for at the time. I'm not sure if it's better or worse to pardon someone above the table like that or for a president to throw their political weight around behind closed doors to get favorable treatment but it's slimy no matter how you cut it.
        • tzs 6y ago
          The drunk driving incident and the following DUI charge came several months after the pardon. (Correction: it was the dropping of the case was months after the pardon. The drunk driving incident and subsequent prosecution was one month after the pardon)