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Task manager "start-up apps" is to blame, though, as it is restricted to only show a subset of startup locations. Use Mark Russinovich/Sysinternals Autoruns [0]

by vaduz 6y ago

Task manager "start-up apps" is to blame, though, as it is restricted to only show a subset of startup locations. Use Mark Russinovich/Sysinternals Autoruns [0] as Windows has just too damn many places where the application can hook up to autostart. This advice has been true since at least "Win2000" days... Whilst you are there, you might want to look at Process Explorer and never look back at Task manager. [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/auto...

zinekeller 6y ago
While the tool is spectacular and I use it when necessary (like the rest of Sysinternals' tools), on the other hand complaining that Task Manager is not listing all of the is like complaining that you cannot edit your cron entries or daemons on the Gnome settings app. In other words, it's by design, as a developer one should use task scheduler like cron and services like daemons: Adobe is the one to blame here for misusing task scheduler and NT services.
- vaduz 6y ago
  The GP has been complaining about Adobe services that start in Services (automatically or on trigger) - as far as I remember, none of those are visual apps, so they indeed behave like daemons. It's like complaining that Gnome Tweak Tool only shows stuff from ${XDG_CONFIG_HOME}/autostart instead of also showing systemd service entries from user or global lists. Use of a persistent background tasks/helpers instead of Task Scheduler (or cron, on Unix-like world) for background updates is a pattern that is unfortunately accepted by now thanks to OS vendors doing exactly the same. "edgeupdate" et co are a great example if we are staying in the Windows world. I don't like how many services/tasks/applications Adobe registers and starts for their CC and DC products, but it should not be a surprise that some are getting registered in other places than HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wndows\CurrentVersion\Run or the Wow6432Node version - it should be considered basic admin knowledge that there are other locations where the process may get started on log in, so it is not reliable to just look in Task Manager or Control Panel "start-up" items.
  - nieve 6y ago
    However it's not just admins who'll be trying to keep Adobe products/services from autostarting and making it hard for those people who aren't sometimes seems like it's an Adobe goal.
jerrygoyal 6y ago
thank you for suggesting these tools. Used autoruns and just disabled hidden (autorun) entries like figma agent, onedrivesetup, clicktorunsvc, postgresql-x64-12
fakedang 6y ago
Commenting for a bookmark in future.
- mtmail 6y ago
  Please use the 'favorite' feature in HN instead. It will then show up in the link 'favorite submissions / comments' in your profile. Alternatively browsers have a bookmark feature.
  - fakedang 6y ago
    I can't find the favorite or flag feature for some reason, next to reply. I don't think browsers can bookmark this comment either, if they can't get the url of the link. It's weird because I used the favourite feature a few months back without qualms.

by vaduz 6y ago

zinekeller 6y ago

While the tool is spectacular and I use it when necessary (like the rest of Sysinternals' tools), on the other hand complaining that Task Manager is not listing all of the is like complaining that you cannot edit your cron entries or daemons on the Gnome settings app. In other words, it's by design, as a developer one should use task scheduler like cron and services like daemons: Adobe is the one to blame here for misusing task scheduler and NT services.

vaduz 6y ago
The GP has been complaining about Adobe services that start in Services (automatically or on trigger) - as far as I remember, none of those are visual apps, so they indeed behave like daemons. It's like complaining that Gnome Tweak Tool only shows stuff from ${XDG_CONFIG_HOME}/autostart instead of also showing systemd service entries from user or global lists. Use of a persistent background tasks/helpers instead of Task Scheduler (or cron, on Unix-like world) for background updates is a pattern that is unfortunately accepted by now thanks to OS vendors doing exactly the same. "edgeupdate" et co are a great example if we are staying in the Windows world. I don't like how many services/tasks/applications Adobe registers and starts for their CC and DC products, but it should not be a surprise that some are getting registered in other places than HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wndows\CurrentVersion\Run or the Wow6432Node version - it should be considered basic admin knowledge that there are other locations where the process may get started on log in, so it is not reliable to just look in Task Manager or Control Panel "start-up" items.
- nieve 6y ago
  However it's not just admins who'll be trying to keep Adobe products/services from autostarting and making it hard for those people who aren't sometimes seems like it's an Adobe goal.

jerrygoyal 6y ago

thank you for suggesting these tools. Used autoruns and just disabled hidden (autorun) entries like figma agent, onedrivesetup, clicktorunsvc, postgresql-x64-12

fakedang 6y ago

Commenting for a bookmark in future.

mtmail 6y ago
Please use the 'favorite' feature in HN instead. It will then show up in the link 'favorite submissions / comments' in your profile. Alternatively browsers have a bookmark feature.
- fakedang 6y ago
  I can't find the favorite or flag feature for some reason, next to reply. I don't think browsers can bookmark this comment either, if they can't get the url of the link. It's weird because I used the favourite feature a few months back without qualms.