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The adobe apps acted like malware. Open your TaskManager(Activity Monitor on Mac) to see how much craps run on your computer when you installed Creative Cloud.

by knlam 6y ago

agys 6y ago
They even wrote their own “Cleaner tool”: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems.html https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-in...
- willejs 6y ago
  I wish I knew this existed the other day, I spent about 10 minutes tracing all the crapware creative cloud had installed onto my macbook and deleted it. Some of it was using 5% cpu occationally, to do what?
  - Algent 6y ago
    Last time I needed it even their cleanup tool didn't manage to completely remove everything. We ended up reinstalling the whole machine to fix it.
- Daho0n 6y ago
  Which put them in class with such esteemed companies as McAfee and EA Games, both who also need cleaners to clean up crap after install often enough to have cleaners in their soft/malware.
jerrygoyal 6y ago
as a windows user, killing adobe from autostart can't be done from task manager "start-up apps" tab. I need to go to resource manager sort entries by auto-start and look for all adobe based processes (it's more than one) and then set them to "run manually". and I'm still not sure If I have completely disabled adobe apps from running passively in background.
- nguyenkien 6y ago
  Not enough, there few more in services tab
  - neurostimulant 6y ago
    Why do Adobe need to do these things? Even database apps don't do this shenanigan, and they're legitimately need to start running when the computer turned on. Is it to stop piracy? But their apps are one of the most popular pirated apps anyway, so it's clearly not working.
- vaduz 6y ago
  Task manager "start-up apps" is to blame, though, as it is restricted to only show a subset of startup locations. Use Mark Russinovich/Sysinternals Autoruns [0] as Windows has just too damn many places where the application can hook up to autostart. This advice has been true since at least "Win2000" days... Whilst you are there, you might want to look at Process Explorer and never look back at Task manager. [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/auto...
  - zinekeller 6y ago
    While the tool is spectacular and I use it when necessary (like the rest of Sysinternals' tools), on the other hand complaining that Task Manager is not listing all of the is like complaining that you cannot edit your cron entries or daemons on the Gnome settings app. In other words, it's by design, as a developer one should use task scheduler like cron and services like daemons: Adobe is the one to blame here for misusing task scheduler and NT services.
    - vaduz 6y ago
      The GP has been complaining about Adobe services that start in Services (automatically or on trigger) - as far as I remember, none of those are visual apps, so they indeed behave like daemons. It's like complaining that Gnome Tweak Tool only shows stuff from ${XDG_CONFIG_HOME}/autostart instead of also showing systemd service entries from user or global lists. Use of a persistent background tasks/helpers instead of Task Scheduler (or cron, on Unix-like world) for background updates is a pattern that is unfortunately accepted by now thanks to OS vendors doing exactly the same. "edgeupdate" et co are a great example if we are staying in the Windows world. I don't like how many services/tasks/applications Adobe registers and starts for their CC and DC products, but it should not be a surprise that some are getting registered in other places than HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wndows\CurrentVersion\Run or the Wow6432Node version - it should be considered basic admin knowledge that there are other locations where the process may get started on log in, so it is not reliable to just look in Task Manager or Control Panel "start-up" items.
keyle 6y ago
Yep. https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/adobe-gc-invoker-utility/td-p/9700336?page=1 https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/adobe-gc-invoker-ut... in your launch agents...
user3939382 6y ago
Here's a writeup on how to address that (slightly out of date but gets you most of the way there) https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/how-to-disable-bloatware/m-p/7902462#M49280 https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/how-to-disable-bloa...
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Definitely noticed that every single time I open Mac Activity Viewer, right at the top there is Adobes anti-piracy tool with 10-30% usage before scuttling off down the list. Presumably it's taking up CPU checking every single application I run so in opening Activity Viewer it's visible at the top checking it?

The adobe apps acted like malware. Open your TaskManager(Activity Monitor on Mac) to see how much craps run on your computer when you installed Creative Cloud.

by knlam 6y ago

The adobe apps acted like malware. Open your TaskManager(Activity Monitor on Mac) to see how much craps run on your computer when you installed Creative Cloud.

agys 6y ago

They even wrote their own “Cleaner tool”: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems.html https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-in...

willejs 6y ago
I wish I knew this existed the other day, I spent about 10 minutes tracing all the crapware creative cloud had installed onto my macbook and deleted it. Some of it was using 5% cpu occationally, to do what?
- Algent 6y ago
  Last time I needed it even their cleanup tool didn't manage to completely remove everything. We ended up reinstalling the whole machine to fix it.
Daho0n 6y ago
Which put them in class with such esteemed companies as McAfee and EA Games, both who also need cleaners to clean up crap after install often enough to have cleaners in their soft/malware.

jerrygoyal 6y ago

as a windows user, killing adobe from autostart can't be done from task manager "start-up apps" tab. I need to go to resource manager sort entries by auto-start and look for all adobe based processes (it's more than one) and then set them to "run manually". and I'm still not sure If I have completely disabled adobe apps from running passively in background.

nguyenkien 6y ago
Not enough, there few more in services tab
- neurostimulant 6y ago
  Why do Adobe need to do these things? Even database apps don't do this shenanigan, and they're legitimately need to start running when the computer turned on. Is it to stop piracy? But their apps are one of the most popular pirated apps anyway, so it's clearly not working.
vaduz 6y ago
Task manager "start-up apps" is to blame, though, as it is restricted to only show a subset of startup locations. Use Mark Russinovich/Sysinternals Autoruns [0] as Windows has just too damn many places where the application can hook up to autostart. This advice has been true since at least "Win2000" days... Whilst you are there, you might want to look at Process Explorer and never look back at Task manager. [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/auto...
- zinekeller 6y ago
  While the tool is spectacular and I use it when necessary (like the rest of Sysinternals' tools), on the other hand complaining that Task Manager is not listing all of the is like complaining that you cannot edit your cron entries or daemons on the Gnome settings app. In other words, it's by design, as a developer one should use task scheduler like cron and services like daemons: Adobe is the one to blame here for misusing task scheduler and NT services.
  - vaduz 6y ago
    The GP has been complaining about Adobe services that start in Services (automatically or on trigger) - as far as I remember, none of those are visual apps, so they indeed behave like daemons. It's like complaining that Gnome Tweak Tool only shows stuff from ${XDG_CONFIG_HOME}/autostart instead of also showing systemd service entries from user or global lists. Use of a persistent background tasks/helpers instead of Task Scheduler (or cron, on Unix-like world) for background updates is a pattern that is unfortunately accepted by now thanks to OS vendors doing exactly the same. "edgeupdate" et co are a great example if we are staying in the Windows world. I don't like how many services/tasks/applications Adobe registers and starts for their CC and DC products, but it should not be a surprise that some are getting registered in other places than HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wndows\CurrentVersion\Run or the Wow6432Node version - it should be considered basic admin knowledge that there are other locations where the process may get started on log in, so it is not reliable to just look in Task Manager or Control Panel "start-up" items.

keyle 6y ago

Yep. https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/adobe-gc-invoker-utility/td-p/9700336?page=1 https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/adobe-gc-invoker-ut... in your launch agents...

user3939382 6y ago

Here's a writeup on how to address that (slightly out of date but gets you most of the way there) https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/how-to-disable-bloatware/m-p/7902462#M49280 https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/how-to-disable-bloa...

whywhywhywhy 6y ago

Definitely noticed that every single time I open Mac Activity Viewer, right at the top there is Adobes anti-piracy tool with 10-30% usage before scuttling off down the list. Presumably it's taking up CPU checking every single application I run so in opening Activity Viewer it's visible at the top checking it?