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I'm not a US citizen, but to me it seems to be ridiculous to give one person the ability to unilaterally make decisions on the lives of individuals. Not just th

I'm not a US citizen, but to me it seems to be ridiculous to give one person the ability to unilaterally make decisions on the lives of individuals. Not just these pardons, but also the barbaric rushed executions Trump performed. It appears to me to be antithetical to a democracy that claims to have a separation of power.

secondcoming 6y ago
> barbaric rushed executions Source?
- n4r9 6y ago
  Think they're referring to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260
  - secondcoming 6y ago
    Intersting, thanks. Is this not just a coincidence of scheduling though? Or do courts normally schedule executions for presidential transition periods?
    - astrange 6y ago
      We normally don't execute anyone ever. People on the federal death row stay there for decades.
    - zimpenfish 6y ago
      I believe the US Government (as opposed to states) hadn't executed anyone for something like 12 years (covering 3 transition periods) and then in about 3 months, executed 13. It's definitely not scheduling.
      - secondcoming 6y ago
        Right ok, But what I'm trying to find out is if these execution dates were set when the people were found guilty, or if someone just decided the execution dates recently.
        n4r9 6y ago
        Propublica has a good behind-the-scenes take on it: https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-trump-and-barrs-last-minute-killing-spree https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-trump-and-barrs-la... In short, there has been a push to resume executions for nearly ten years, and it has accelerated during Trump's presidency (he campaigned on a strong pro-execution platform). In summer 2019 a shortlist was made of prisoners already on Death Row, whose appeals had failed. They then moved as quickly as they could to schedule the executions, quash further appeals and pass litigation to make them happen.
    - severino 6y ago
      https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/execution-database?filters%5Bfederal%5D=Yes https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/execution-database?f... Look at the dates, from the beginning. To me, it doesn't look like a coincidence.
- FriedrichN 6y ago
  I shouldn't have assumed everyone knew about this. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-administration-us-death-penalty-executions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-admini... This story is especially sad. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/lisa-montgomery-death-row-execution-history https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/lisa-montgomer...
  - secondcoming 6y ago
    The BBC article linked in this thread is far more informative. But thanks.
FriedrichN 6y ago
Funny how this gets downvoted without anyone giving a comment on why my statement deserves to be downvoted.

secondcoming 6y ago

> barbaric rushed executions Source?

n4r9 6y ago
Think they're referring to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260
- secondcoming 6y ago
  Intersting, thanks. Is this not just a coincidence of scheduling though? Or do courts normally schedule executions for presidential transition periods?
  - astrange 6y ago
    We normally don't execute anyone ever. People on the federal death row stay there for decades.
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    I believe the US Government (as opposed to states) hadn't executed anyone for something like 12 years (covering 3 transition periods) and then in about 3 months, executed 13. It's definitely not scheduling.
    - secondcoming 6y ago
      Right ok, But what I'm trying to find out is if these execution dates were set when the people were found guilty, or if someone just decided the execution dates recently.
      - n4r9 6y ago
        Propublica has a good behind-the-scenes take on it: https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-trump-and-barrs-last-minute-killing-spree https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-trump-and-barrs-la... In short, there has been a push to resume executions for nearly ten years, and it has accelerated during Trump's presidency (he campaigned on a strong pro-execution platform). In summer 2019 a shortlist was made of prisoners already on Death Row, whose appeals had failed. They then moved as quickly as they could to schedule the executions, quash further appeals and pass litigation to make them happen.
  - severino 6y ago
    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/execution-database?filters%5Bfederal%5D=Yes https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/execution-database?f... Look at the dates, from the beginning. To me, it doesn't look like a coincidence.
FriedrichN 6y ago
I shouldn't have assumed everyone knew about this. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-administration-us-death-penalty-executions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-admini... This story is especially sad. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/lisa-montgomery-death-row-execution-history https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/lisa-montgomer...
- secondcoming 6y ago
  The BBC article linked in this thread is far more informative. But thanks.

FriedrichN 6y ago

Funny how this gets downvoted without anyone giving a comment on why my statement deserves to be downvoted.