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The Trump saga lasted 4 years though it will probably take the rest of my lifetime for the US to heal from Trump and all the acolytes his administration embolde

The Trump saga lasted 4 years though it will probably take the rest of my lifetime for the US to heal from Trump and all the acolytes his administration emboldened; from the radical right, to enabling grifters, to draconian and in humane immigration policies (kids in cages, wtf?!?), and a whole lack and mistrust of science, not to mention the rise of QAnon and just the overall tarnishing of any semblance of American leadership abroad (because he is such a joke and his administration, too).

logicchains 6y ago
>kids in cages, wtf?!?) I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama built the cages.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama built the cages. I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama implemented policies to limit the necessity for their use, while the Trump Administration deliberately maximized their use.
  - techplex 6y ago
    Source?
- croon 6y ago
  Under Obama: If you commit a crime while having entered the country, you are charged in criminal court, meaning you are put in jail awaiting trial. Your kids can't be put in jail with you, thus they are taken care of separately. If you don't commit a crime, you are charged in civil court and not put in jail awaiting trial, so your kids aren't taken from you. Under Trump: Charge everyone in criminal court [0], take away everyone's kids, despite evidence that it doesn't deter [1], because we are evil vindictive (inferred from facts) [expletive] (assumed). [0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/27/far-more-immigration-cases-are-being-prosecuted-criminally-under-trump-administration/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/27/far-more-im... [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/border-arrest-data-suggest-trumps-push-to-split-migrant-families-had-little-deterrent-effect/2018/08/08/0f452f0e-9a85-11e8-b55e-5002300ef004_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/borde...

logicchains 6y ago

>kids in cages, wtf?!?) I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama built the cages.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama built the cages. I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama implemented policies to limit the necessity for their use, while the Trump Administration deliberately maximized their use.
- techplex 6y ago
  Source?
croon 6y ago
Under Obama: If you commit a crime while having entered the country, you are charged in criminal court, meaning you are put in jail awaiting trial. Your kids can't be put in jail with you, thus they are taken care of separately. If you don't commit a crime, you are charged in civil court and not put in jail awaiting trial, so your kids aren't taken from you. Under Trump: Charge everyone in criminal court [0], take away everyone's kids, despite evidence that it doesn't deter [1], because we are evil vindictive (inferred from facts) [expletive] (assumed). [0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/27/far-more-immigration-cases-are-being-prosecuted-criminally-under-trump-administration/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/27/far-more-im... [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/border-arrest-data-suggest-trumps-push-to-split-migrant-families-had-little-deterrent-effect/2018/08/08/0f452f0e-9a85-11e8-b55e-5002300ef004_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/borde...