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Why does that same description not apply to their adversaries?

ceejayoz 6y ago
When antifa storms the Capitol and gets Congressional representation (i.e. folks like Marjorie Taylor Greene), do let me know.
- lenkite 6y ago
  Well, actually an Antifa activist (who also came on CNN) was one of those charged for inciting the Capitol attack: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/utah-man-charged-federal-court-following-events-united-states-capitol https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/utah-man-charged-federal-... https://www.newsweek.com/john-sullivan-capitol-attack-leftwing-antifa-1561898 https://www.newsweek.com/john-sullivan-capitol-attack-leftwi... With men like these deliberately egging on rioters, it's no wonder a protest turned violent.
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    One guy? This guy? > Activists in Utah have spent months condemning Sullivan, who has at turns identified himself as a racial justice protester and leftist documentarian, and they have warned others to be leery of his motives and any events he sponsored. > He held rallies featuring Black organizers. But attendees said one demonstration also featured members of the Proud Boys, an all-male extremist group with ties to white nationalism. The Proud Boys who attended, organizers said, told the crowd they wished to make peace with Black activists. > Later in the summer, Sullivan helped organize a pro-gun-rights rally and marched with self-styled militia members at the Utah Capitol, KSL-TV reported, further infuriating Black activists. > Sullivan’s reputation as an agitator and bad actor has followed him into other protest circles. In encrypted chats among left-leaning activists, organizers routinely flag posts by Sullivan to new members, saying, “Don’t trust that guy” and, pointing to his past ties with the Proud Boys, “He’s a double agent.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-video-arrested/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-vi... "Our mob can be incited to kill a cop by a single probably-not-really-antifa infiltrator tagging along" is a hell of a way to argue they're not dangerous.
    - lenkite 6y ago
      We can keep arguing past each other or you can listen to his own speech delivered personally by him to know where his alignment truly lies: https://www.air.tv/watch?v=wZAuX4HmTK6WCuGoqPLB4w https://www.air.tv/watch?v=wZAuX4HmTK6WCuGoqPLB4w "We fought against white militia. [expletive]. We are going to rip Trump out of office. We are going to rip that [expletive]. " The left may have abandoned this guy now after his arrest and are busy deflecting all association, but he was most definitely an "anti-trump" activist. It takes just a couple of people to incite a riot honestly and this guy is an expert who was egging people on while standing safe.
      - ceejayoz 6y ago
        > The left may have abandoned this guy now after his arrest and are busy deflecting all association, but he was most definitely an "anti-trump" activist. Nah, long before that. From November, for example: https://twitter.com/RebellionBaby/status/1331902008765206528 https://twitter.com/RebellionBaby/status/1331902008765206528 > It takes just a couple of people to incite a riot honestly and this guy is an expert who was egging people on while standing safe. Who mentioned Trump?

When antifa storms the Capitol and gets Congressional representation (i.e. folks like Marjorie Taylor Greene), do let me know.

lenkite 6y ago
Well, actually an Antifa activist (who also came on CNN) was one of those charged for inciting the Capitol attack: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/utah-man-charged-federal-court-following-events-united-states-capitol https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/utah-man-charged-federal-... https://www.newsweek.com/john-sullivan-capitol-attack-leftwing-antifa-1561898 https://www.newsweek.com/john-sullivan-capitol-attack-leftwi... With men like these deliberately egging on rioters, it's no wonder a protest turned violent.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  One guy? This guy? > Activists in Utah have spent months condemning Sullivan, who has at turns identified himself as a racial justice protester and leftist documentarian, and they have warned others to be leery of his motives and any events he sponsored. > He held rallies featuring Black organizers. But attendees said one demonstration also featured members of the Proud Boys, an all-male extremist group with ties to white nationalism. The Proud Boys who attended, organizers said, told the crowd they wished to make peace with Black activists. > Later in the summer, Sullivan helped organize a pro-gun-rights rally and marched with self-styled militia members at the Utah Capitol, KSL-TV reported, further infuriating Black activists. > Sullivan’s reputation as an agitator and bad actor has followed him into other protest circles. In encrypted chats among left-leaning activists, organizers routinely flag posts by Sullivan to new members, saying, “Don’t trust that guy” and, pointing to his past ties with the Proud Boys, “He’s a double agent.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-video-arrested/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-vi... "Our mob can be incited to kill a cop by a single probably-not-really-antifa infiltrator tagging along" is a hell of a way to argue they're not dangerous.
  - lenkite 6y ago
    We can keep arguing past each other or you can listen to his own speech delivered personally by him to know where his alignment truly lies: https://www.air.tv/watch?v=wZAuX4HmTK6WCuGoqPLB4w https://www.air.tv/watch?v=wZAuX4HmTK6WCuGoqPLB4w "We fought against white militia. [expletive]. We are going to rip Trump out of office. We are going to rip that [expletive]. " The left may have abandoned this guy now after his arrest and are busy deflecting all association, but he was most definitely an "anti-trump" activist. It takes just a couple of people to incite a riot honestly and this guy is an expert who was egging people on while standing safe.
    - ceejayoz 6y ago
      > The left may have abandoned this guy now after his arrest and are busy deflecting all association, but he was most definitely an "anti-trump" activist. Nah, long before that. From November, for example: https://twitter.com/RebellionBaby/status/1331902008765206528 https://twitter.com/RebellionBaby/status/1331902008765206528 > It takes just a couple of people to incite a riot honestly and this guy is an expert who was egging people on while standing safe. Who mentioned Trump?