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> You earn a billion selling wonderbras and buy one of these - OK. > You build one of this on corruption money while ruling the richest country with the poores
by bergstromm466 6y ago
> You earn a billion selling wonderbras and buy one of these - OK.
> You build one of this on corruption money while ruling the richest country with the poorest people - not OK.
They are two forms of capitalist exploitation.
Your framing excuses the ‘business‘ kind, but the underlying exploitative mechanics are really no different.
Most global north firms benefit from labor in corporate-bribed and IMF-drained regimes in the global south. Global south citizens are basically locked up in their countries, to be ruthlessly exploited by global north capitalist firms. The capitalist class wins, the working class loses.
- jojobas 6y agoBullshit. Nobody can force me into buying wonderbras. Sure, immense wealth translates into power, monopolies suck and antitrust regulations are the for a reason. Still it's a far cry from running an oil state and killing adversaries.
- bergstromm466 6y ago> Still it's a far cry from running an oil state and killing adversaries. Because Amerika doesn’t do exactly that, right?
- missedthecue 6y agoSaying that selling someone a product they like and want at a reasonable price is just the same as ruthlessly running a dictatorship in a poor third world nation is another level of pretentious privilege. How can even you compare the two in good faith?
- MrRiddle 6y agoWhat if the company used child labor? If even Apple used parts built by children for years, I can only assume companies used it as well. So if that’s the case, is it that different?
- seniorivn 6y agoI don't know about this case but if you sold someone something that he genuinely wanted to buy something you legally own for the price the buyer could compare to alternatives etc there is nothing wrong or unfair about it no matter how much you profit from such a deal
- bergstromm466 6y ago> I don't know about this case I understand your confusion. The capitalist class push a different narrative, a narrative which makes others’ exploitation, as well as our own, seem normal - as well as portraying capitalist production as the only viable system of production. If you’re genuinely interested in exploring this from a systemic perspective, I can recommend Zak Cope’s ‘The Wealth of Some Nations’, as well as Vijay Prashad’s recent book ‘Washington Bullets‘, or anything written by him really.
- asats 6y agoGenuinely interested how a sane person can be a communist in the 21st century.
- jjj123 6y agoThis was not a productive comment. Those that have different views from yours are not insane. As for how? I am not a communist but I am anti-capitalist because it’s clear to me capitalism is not going to solve the environmental crisis it created.
- thrwway34 6y agoYou need to check on how communist regimes were handling their environments.
- missedthecue 6y agoHow does capitalism cause environmental damage any more than alternate systems, say communism, anarchism, or feudalism? Neither of those systems have avoided environmental damage where they've been implemented. The common denominator is humans.
- WannaFly 6y agoeconomy is non zero sum game.