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Rolled, and let go on bail? [1] Or just released with a stay-away-from-DC order? [2] The discrepancy between how BLM and white nationalists are treated is stagg

by r00fus 6y ago

Rolled, and let go on bail? [1] Or just released with a stay-away-from-DC order? [2] The discrepancy between how BLM and white nationalists are treated is staggering. [1] https://apnews.com/article/arrests-florida-nancy-pelosi-capitol-siege-12f8f6baf702c3ce12026fd3705cf842 https://apnews.com/article/arrests-florida-nancy-pelosi-capi... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/01/14/judge-releases-larry-brock-seen-carrying-zip-ties-in-senate-despite-fbi-warning-he-could-commit-more-violence/?sh=5b6596b46b4f https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/01/14/judg...

manfredo 6y ago
There was a varied response to BLM riots. In my city, BLM demonstrators - or at least people purporting to be part of BLM - declared several city blocks an autonomous zone. The zone's security forces subsequent killed several people (among them, ironically, an unarmed black 16 year old). It took the city 3 weeks to clear out this zone, and it was done without lethal force. By comparison, the people occupying the Capitol were removed in a matter of hours including employing lethal force. The Capitol protests were met with more leniency than some BLM demonstrations, but less than others.
- free_rms 6y ago
  Worth mentioning that the only lethal force in the capitol was when they were breaching the barricades where (I think) VIPs were being guarded. That's lethal force in self-defense, not lethal force to clear out the protest.
- pydry 6y ago
  >The zone's security forces subsequent killed several people (among them, ironically, an unarmed black 16 year old). There seem to be a lot of people who are absolutely certain that the security forces were responsible for this. The police aren't among their number, however, since they haven't detained, arrested or charged anyone. There was also another killing in the zone that was, iirc, erroneously blamed on the security forces.
  - philwelch 6y ago
    The police stated that the crime scene had been cleaned of evidence by the time they arrived to investigate it.
    - smolder 6y ago
      That doesn't clear anything up or indicate guilt.
philwelch 6y ago
Is it? > According to an accounting by the American Bail Coalition, verified by The Fact Checker with a review of Hennepin County jail records, all but three of the 170 people arrested during the protests between May 26 and June 2 were released from jail within a week. Of the 167 released, only 10 had to put up a monetary bond to be released; in most cases, the amounts were nominal, such as $78 or $100. In fact, 92 percent of those arrested had to pay no bail — and 29 percent of those arrested did not face charges. (The American Bail Coalition is a trade group of insurance companies who profit from underwriting bail bonds.) [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/03/kamala-harris-tweeted-support-bail-fund-money-didnt-just-assist-protestors/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics...

by r00fus 6y ago

manfredo 6y ago

There was a varied response to BLM riots. In my city, BLM demonstrators - or at least people purporting to be part of BLM - declared several city blocks an autonomous zone. The zone's security forces subsequent killed several people (among them, ironically, an unarmed black 16 year old). It took the city 3 weeks to clear out this zone, and it was done without lethal force. By comparison, the people occupying the Capitol were removed in a matter of hours including employing lethal force. The Capitol protests were met with more leniency than some BLM demonstrations, but less than others.

free_rms 6y ago
Worth mentioning that the only lethal force in the capitol was when they were breaching the barricades where (I think) VIPs were being guarded. That's lethal force in self-defense, not lethal force to clear out the protest.
pydry 6y ago
>The zone's security forces subsequent killed several people (among them, ironically, an unarmed black 16 year old). There seem to be a lot of people who are absolutely certain that the security forces were responsible for this. The police aren't among their number, however, since they haven't detained, arrested or charged anyone. There was also another killing in the zone that was, iirc, erroneously blamed on the security forces.
- philwelch 6y ago
  The police stated that the crime scene had been cleaned of evidence by the time they arrived to investigate it.
  - smolder 6y ago
    That doesn't clear anything up or indicate guilt.

philwelch 6y ago

Is it? > According to an accounting by the American Bail Coalition, verified by The Fact Checker with a review of Hennepin County jail records, all but three of the 170 people arrested during the protests between May 26 and June 2 were released from jail within a week. Of the 167 released, only 10 had to put up a monetary bond to be released; in most cases, the amounts were nominal, such as $78 or $100. In fact, 92 percent of those arrested had to pay no bail — and 29 percent of those arrested did not face charges. (The American Bail Coalition is a trade group of insurance companies who profit from underwriting bail bonds.) [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/03/kamala-harris-tweeted-support-bail-fund-money-didnt-just-assist-protestors/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics...