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> Apple discovered additional workers as young as 14 years old during an audit just three months later. While this may sound terrible, it's not that uncommon i

> Apple discovered additional workers as young as 14 years old during an audit just three months later. While this may sound terrible, it's not that uncommon in less developed countries. I had my first job when I was 15 and that was one of the most exciting moments. I'm pretty sure those 14 years old are as excited as 15 years old me–eager to work and make money. It would be a breaking news if a supplier were to _force_ children to work, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case here. Those kids do want to work and they are proud to be doing work for Apple.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
I had my first job folding and delivering flyers when I was 13 and back then already asked why it was not child labor to no satisfactory response. I later came to realize that the reason it is not child labor is simply because it's not something associated therewith, had I earned my money making sneakers, something no more or less laborious, it would be called so. Laws are rarely the function of what something factually is, as that would be far too boring and sensible and actually fix problems; they are invariably based on what particular segment of society the activity is associated with, of course: — thus all the clean man's hard drugs such as alcohol and tobacco are completely legal.
- jwalton 6y ago
  I was listening to a talk a while ago by one of the founders of Cirque du Soleil, and he said they ran into a problem in (iirc - this was a while ago) a European country where they were told they had to stop performing one off their acts, because the performers were too young and so were considered child workers. As you point out, we seem to be OK with child actors and child paper routes and child you tubers, for some reason.
marc_io 6y ago
They may be “excited”, but this really doesn't make it less problematic. They must follow the labor laws too.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago

I had my first job folding and delivering flyers when I was 13 and back then already asked why it was not child labor to no satisfactory response. I later came to realize that the reason it is not child labor is simply because it's not something associated therewith, had I earned my money making sneakers, something no more or less laborious, it would be called so. Laws are rarely the function of what something factually is, as that would be far too boring and sensible and actually fix problems; they are invariably based on what particular segment of society the activity is associated with, of course: — thus all the clean man's hard drugs such as alcohol and tobacco are completely legal.

jwalton 6y ago
I was listening to a talk a while ago by one of the founders of Cirque du Soleil, and he said they ran into a problem in (iirc - this was a while ago) a European country where they were told they had to stop performing one off their acts, because the performers were too young and so were considered child workers. As you point out, we seem to be OK with child actors and child paper routes and child you tubers, for some reason.

marc_io 6y ago

They may be “excited”, but this really doesn't make it less problematic. They must follow the labor laws too.