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Does Brave have an implementation of Multi-Account Containers? This is the ONE killer feature in Firefox that makes it impossible for me to leave for Brave com

by mikece 6y ago

Does Brave have an implementation of Multi-Account Containers? This is the ONE killer feature in Firefox that makes it impossible for me to leave for Brave completely: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

jonathansampson 6y ago
Not a 1-to-1 parity at this time, but Brave offers parallel profiles. You can have one running personal interests, while the other has professional interests. Each profile is able to host a unique session for Facebook, etc. Brave already prohibits cookie and data bleed-over from one domain to another.
- mikece 6y ago
  That creates a new window per Profile as opposed to just one window with a bunch of tabs, all conceivably in using their own Container, right?
  - mikewhy 6y ago
    How do you juggle multiple facebook / google / anything accounts in that sort of system?
    - w14 6y ago
      Each container can be colour coded (up to 8 colours) and each tab is underscored with the same colour, so you can immediately see which is which.
    - blntechie 6y ago
      The containers can be named and color coded. Also there are keyboard shortcuts which once learned makes it easier to switch.
- 0-_-0 6y ago
  > Brave already prohibits cookie and data bleed-over from one domain to another. Is that similar to First Party Isolation in Firefox?
  - jonathansampson 6y ago
    I suspect so, but don't know the details of FPI in Firefox. We don't permit cookies and storage access by third-parties, while also blocking known bad-actors entirely. We also "farble" APIs to create noise for those who do have access. If there are any specific scenarios or questions you have in mind, I'd be happy to discuss further.
    - joombaga 6y ago
      Would Brave's parallel profiles allow me to be signed in to 2 different AWS accounts? I've tried this in Multi-Account Containers for Firefox and SessionBox in Chrome, and they're both pretty buggy, e.g. the console's username menu indicates I'm in account "A", but I'm seeing resources listed from account "B", or EC2 will work fine but clicking over to ECS prompt me to sign in again.
      - jonathansampson 6y ago
        Correct; your AWS session would be scoped to your profile. You could be using your own personal account in the "Personal" profile, and your professional/corporate account in your "Work" profile.
      - blntechie 6y ago
        I use Firefox containers to be logged into 3 AWS accounts and works fine for me.
    - jorvi 6y ago
      > We also "farble" APIs to create noise for those who do have access Does this effectively do the same as the 'Canvasblocker' extension does for Firefox?
max_ 6y ago
The first time I actually leant how to use this I was like wow. It was the only reason why I left chrome for firefox
- daemoens 6y ago
  Chrome got it a couple months back fyi
  - ernesth 6y ago
    Really? How do you enable it?
minitoar 6y ago
I'm not terribly familiar with all the features that Multi-Account Containers offer. Does SessionBox for Chrome not meet your needs for some specific reason?
- toyg 6y ago
  There is an extension for everything, that’s not the point. Firefox ships it as standard and supports it as such.
  - minitoar 6y ago
    Forgive my ignorance, but I think the thing OP linked is also an addon?
    - toyg 6y ago
      It’s an addon from Mozilla itself that just surfaces a bit of UI for advanced controls. The actual feature is already baked in the browser, they’ve just been very conservative about exposing it to everyone.
    - marcolussetti 6y ago
      You are not wrong. However it's a first-party extension, as in it's from Mozilla. Debatable how significant that is as a difference.
    - pricci 6y ago
      Firefox has the containerization built in. You can use it without the extension but with worst UX. > For advanced users: You can also enable Containers without the Multi-Account Containers extension, by changing some preferences in the Configuration Editor (about:config page). Note that you will get a better user experience by installing the extension but, if you choose not to, you can set privacy.userContext.enabled to true, privacy.userContext.ui.enabled to true and privacy.userContext.longPressBehavior to 2 in about:config. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers
  - 6y ago
rmm 6y ago
For me, somewhat embarrassingly, the one killer feature is the "Send to Device" feature from firefox on iOS. Being able to send links to browser for later reviewing is super useful. Not sure why Edge or other browsers don't implement
- autocorr 6y ago
  This is a killer feature for me too. Works great between all my devices across Linux, Android, and iOS. If I see an interesting article I just ship it off to my desktop to read later instead of keeping the tab open for days on my phone.
  - Stephen304 6y ago
    I've unfortunately had the opposite experience with FF send, I still use it all the time (or try to) when I find links on mobile that I want to read on a big screen, or when I have an image url on my laptop that I want to send from my phone via SMS, snapshat, etc. But the delay is just unbearably long and inconsistent. Sometimes (most often when sending desktop to phone) the delay is 15 minutes or more. I've found it a lot easier to use a bookmarklet that uses DDG to generate qr codes, but that only solved sharing in one direction. I've wondered how send could be so slow but maybe something in my setup is just killing it. More than anything though, I would love an easy way to access my phone's sharing options from my laptop (perhaps an addon button that shows a list of app intents that can receive a url/page). This is one thing I'm hoping to hack at when I get my Librem.
    - Naracion 6y ago
      I'm on Android. I use an app called Pushbullet, which mirrors notifications but also enables text and file sharing between all your devices. Sharing is instant. I also enable "open immediately on browser", meaning if I send a link from my phone to my computer browser then it'll automatically open a new tab with that link. It's pretty neat, it's really two or three taps away from any web browser tab on my mobile (open menu, hit Pushbullet shortcut; or open menu, open sharing menu, push to all devices).
Seb-C 6y ago
Ironically the only time I wanted to use this feature was to separate my accounts related to my project and browser extension. Except that the mozilla 's site does not care about your privacy. Whether you use containers or not, they automatically get your identity from the browser, and then you cannot just be logged out.

by mikece 6y ago

jonathansampson 6y ago

Not a 1-to-1 parity at this time, but Brave offers parallel profiles. You can have one running personal interests, while the other has professional interests. Each profile is able to host a unique session for Facebook, etc. Brave already prohibits cookie and data bleed-over from one domain to another.

mikece 6y ago
That creates a new window per Profile as opposed to just one window with a bunch of tabs, all conceivably in using their own Container, right?
- mikewhy 6y ago
  How do you juggle multiple facebook / google / anything accounts in that sort of system?
  - w14 6y ago
    Each container can be colour coded (up to 8 colours) and each tab is underscored with the same colour, so you can immediately see which is which.
  - blntechie 6y ago
    The containers can be named and color coded. Also there are keyboard shortcuts which once learned makes it easier to switch.
0-_-0 6y ago
> Brave already prohibits cookie and data bleed-over from one domain to another. Is that similar to First Party Isolation in Firefox?
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  I suspect so, but don't know the details of FPI in Firefox. We don't permit cookies and storage access by third-parties, while also blocking known bad-actors entirely. We also "farble" APIs to create noise for those who do have access. If there are any specific scenarios or questions you have in mind, I'd be happy to discuss further.
  - joombaga 6y ago
    Would Brave's parallel profiles allow me to be signed in to 2 different AWS accounts? I've tried this in Multi-Account Containers for Firefox and SessionBox in Chrome, and they're both pretty buggy, e.g. the console's username menu indicates I'm in account "A", but I'm seeing resources listed from account "B", or EC2 will work fine but clicking over to ECS prompt me to sign in again.
    - jonathansampson 6y ago
      Correct; your AWS session would be scoped to your profile. You could be using your own personal account in the "Personal" profile, and your professional/corporate account in your "Work" profile.
    - blntechie 6y ago
      I use Firefox containers to be logged into 3 AWS accounts and works fine for me.
  - jorvi 6y ago
    > We also "farble" APIs to create noise for those who do have access Does this effectively do the same as the 'Canvasblocker' extension does for Firefox?

max_ 6y ago

The first time I actually leant how to use this I was like wow. It was the only reason why I left chrome for firefox

daemoens 6y ago
Chrome got it a couple months back fyi
- ernesth 6y ago
  Really? How do you enable it?

minitoar 6y ago

I'm not terribly familiar with all the features that Multi-Account Containers offer. Does SessionBox for Chrome not meet your needs for some specific reason?

toyg 6y ago
There is an extension for everything, that’s not the point. Firefox ships it as standard and supports it as such.
- minitoar 6y ago
  Forgive my ignorance, but I think the thing OP linked is also an addon?
  - toyg 6y ago
    It’s an addon from Mozilla itself that just surfaces a bit of UI for advanced controls. The actual feature is already baked in the browser, they’ve just been very conservative about exposing it to everyone.
  - marcolussetti 6y ago
    You are not wrong. However it's a first-party extension, as in it's from Mozilla. Debatable how significant that is as a difference.
  - pricci 6y ago
    Firefox has the containerization built in. You can use it without the extension but with worst UX. > For advanced users: You can also enable Containers without the Multi-Account Containers extension, by changing some preferences in the Configuration Editor (about:config page). Note that you will get a better user experience by installing the extension but, if you choose not to, you can set privacy.userContext.enabled to true, privacy.userContext.ui.enabled to true and privacy.userContext.longPressBehavior to 2 in about:config. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers
- 6y ago

rmm 6y ago

For me, somewhat embarrassingly, the one killer feature is the "Send to Device" feature from firefox on iOS. Being able to send links to browser for later reviewing is super useful. Not sure why Edge or other browsers don't implement

autocorr 6y ago
This is a killer feature for me too. Works great between all my devices across Linux, Android, and iOS. If I see an interesting article I just ship it off to my desktop to read later instead of keeping the tab open for days on my phone.
- Stephen304 6y ago
  I've unfortunately had the opposite experience with FF send, I still use it all the time (or try to) when I find links on mobile that I want to read on a big screen, or when I have an image url on my laptop that I want to send from my phone via SMS, snapshat, etc. But the delay is just unbearably long and inconsistent. Sometimes (most often when sending desktop to phone) the delay is 15 minutes or more. I've found it a lot easier to use a bookmarklet that uses DDG to generate qr codes, but that only solved sharing in one direction. I've wondered how send could be so slow but maybe something in my setup is just killing it. More than anything though, I would love an easy way to access my phone's sharing options from my laptop (perhaps an addon button that shows a list of app intents that can receive a url/page). This is one thing I'm hoping to hack at when I get my Librem.
  - Naracion 6y ago
    I'm on Android. I use an app called Pushbullet, which mirrors notifications but also enables text and file sharing between all your devices. Sharing is instant. I also enable "open immediately on browser", meaning if I send a link from my phone to my computer browser then it'll automatically open a new tab with that link. It's pretty neat, it's really two or three taps away from any web browser tab on my mobile (open menu, hit Pushbullet shortcut; or open menu, open sharing menu, push to all devices).

Seb-C 6y ago

Ironically the only time I wanted to use this feature was to separate my accounts related to my project and browser extension. Except that the mozilla 's site does not care about your privacy. Whether you use containers or not, they automatically get your identity from the browser, and then you cannot just be logged out.