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According to this site what really doesn't exist is an anime with a male character in it.

by maxk42 6y ago

mperham 6y ago
Or anything other than pasty white skin.
- viraptor 6y ago
  Did you expect anything taught on that specific dataset to generate not-clear-bright skin? Why?
- powersnail 6y ago
  Most anime are drawn by Japanese people. Seems reasonable that the variety of skin colors is low.
- RedComet 6y ago
  Pasty? Why the racism?
sillysaurusx 6y ago
Not far from the truth! The source dataset was 2.4 million images from Danbooru. If you go to the site, you’ll see that male characters are pretty rare. They seem to be frequent, but only because there are an ungodly number of submissions to danbooru. Think of it more like “for every male character, there are at least 10+ female characters.” And it doesn’t help that a lot of the male characters are drawn in a female style...
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- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  This is the front page of Danbooru for me, as of posting: https://i.imgur.com/9eO6ZpU.png https://i.imgur.com/9eO6ZpU.png [standard warning that it might contain nudity and violence exceeding your personal threshold] It seems to me that if it truly used Danbooru, it also filtered for specific tags, which is also indicated by the art-style that it uses. The ratio of ostensibly male to female characters there is more so 7:18
  - fireattack 6y ago
    One page as a data point is way too small to conclude anything. It could totally be some uploaders just happened to dump a batch of illustrations with males since he/she likes it. There are tags for male/female which will be a better representation. 1girl: 3038k 1boy: 559k (Note: these tags are used when there is only 1 character with this gender presents. But it's good enough.) Your idea about they filtered images could still be true, to be clear.
- gwern 6y ago
  That was the problem with my attempt at a 'This Husbando Does Not Exist' model: https://www.gwern.net/Faces#anime-faces-male-faces https://www.gwern.net/Faces#anime-faces-male-faces There weren't that many male faces, and the ones that I could extract turned out to be super-feminine looking anyway, or outright crossplay/traps, so it didn't wind up looking all that different!
- dathinab 6y ago
  Sites like Danbooru have a very strong bias to female characters in at least poses which at least slightly imply sexual content. This explains a lot about why the generated images are the way they are (having a lot of borderline NSFW pictures and even if not having poses which are sexualized and/or imply sexual content). While Anime tend to be more open to such things and tend to have often quite a bit of fan service the generated images are way to much biased compared to the "normal" anime/manga content you find on platform like crunchyroll or similar. I mean a non negligible part of the pictures they used have likely hentai variations if you disable safe mode (If Danbooru is anyway similar to a site I used a view years ago to get nice screen background, if used in safe mode. And this seems to be the case.)... But then due to practical (and maybe copyright) reasons it's very viable to use Danbooru as source but not so much to get snapshots of Anime's or pages from "real" Mangas.
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claw_howitzer 6y ago
or non-sexualized minors, gross

According to this site what really doesn't exist is an anime with a male character in it.

by maxk42 6y ago

According to this site what really doesn't exist is an anime with a male character in it.

mperham 6y ago

Or anything other than pasty white skin.

viraptor 6y ago
Did you expect anything taught on that specific dataset to generate not-clear-bright skin? Why?
powersnail 6y ago
Most anime are drawn by Japanese people. Seems reasonable that the variety of skin colors is low.
RedComet 6y ago
Pasty? Why the racism?

sillysaurusx 6y ago

Not far from the truth! The source dataset was 2.4 million images from Danbooru. If you go to the site, you’ll see that male characters are pretty rare. They seem to be frequent, but only because there are an ungodly number of submissions to danbooru. Think of it more like “for every male character, there are at least 10+ female characters.” And it doesn’t help that a lot of the male characters are drawn in a female style...

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Blikkentrekker 6y ago
This is the front page of Danbooru for me, as of posting: https://i.imgur.com/9eO6ZpU.png https://i.imgur.com/9eO6ZpU.png [standard warning that it might contain nudity and violence exceeding your personal threshold] It seems to me that if it truly used Danbooru, it also filtered for specific tags, which is also indicated by the art-style that it uses. The ratio of ostensibly male to female characters there is more so 7:18
- fireattack 6y ago
  One page as a data point is way too small to conclude anything. It could totally be some uploaders just happened to dump a batch of illustrations with males since he/she likes it. There are tags for male/female which will be a better representation. 1girl: 3038k 1boy: 559k (Note: these tags are used when there is only 1 character with this gender presents. But it's good enough.) Your idea about they filtered images could still be true, to be clear.
gwern 6y ago
That was the problem with my attempt at a 'This Husbando Does Not Exist' model: https://www.gwern.net/Faces#anime-faces-male-faces https://www.gwern.net/Faces#anime-faces-male-faces There weren't that many male faces, and the ones that I could extract turned out to be super-feminine looking anyway, or outright crossplay/traps, so it didn't wind up looking all that different!
dathinab 6y ago
Sites like Danbooru have a very strong bias to female characters in at least poses which at least slightly imply sexual content. This explains a lot about why the generated images are the way they are (having a lot of borderline NSFW pictures and even if not having poses which are sexualized and/or imply sexual content). While Anime tend to be more open to such things and tend to have often quite a bit of fan service the generated images are way to much biased compared to the "normal" anime/manga content you find on platform like crunchyroll or similar. I mean a non negligible part of the pictures they used have likely hentai variations if you disable safe mode (If Danbooru is anyway similar to a site I used a view years ago to get nice screen background, if used in safe mode. And this seems to be the case.)... But then due to practical (and maybe copyright) reasons it's very viable to use Danbooru as source but not so much to get snapshots of Anime's or pages from "real" Mangas.

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claw_howitzer 6y ago

or non-sexualized minors, gross