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I recently found out that on May 30th, there were numerous Secret Service members injured in a BLM/antifa attack (oh, scratch that, "peaceful protest") on the W

I recently found out that on May 30th, there were numerous Secret Service members injured in a BLM/antifa attack (oh, scratch that, "peaceful protest") on the White House. I briefly wondered why I hadn't heard about that, then I chuckled at my own naivete. Of course, one might ask how that was coordinated, but then it was a peaceful protest, so who cares?

cochne 6y ago
Can you provide a source please?
- at_a_remove 6y ago
  I could, but why not search for it? As an exciting exercise, look at who reported it and, more interestingly, who didn't. Examine how the event was described, when it was described at all.
  - cochne 6y ago
    I only asked after searching for it failing to find a good source
- Uhhrrr 6y ago
  I hadn't heard about it either, but this Guardian article backs it up: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/protest-washington-dc-george-floyd-white-house-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/protest-wash...
  - teachrdan 6y ago
    From the article: "The Secret Service said in a statement on Saturday that six protesters were arrested in Washington and “multiple” officers were injured. There were no details on the charges or nature of the injuries. A spokesman for US park police said their officers made no arrests, but several suffered minor injuries and one was taken to a hospital after being struck in the helmet by a projectile." A few injuries, with perhaps only one serious enough to lead to a hospitalization. A far cry from a police officer beaten to death by a mob of right wingers invading the Capitol.
    - mberning 6y ago
      You seem to forget or ignore that one capitol rioter was shot in the neck/face and died. One officer allegedly died from a head strike from a fire extinguisher. Another committed suicide. I am not aware of any officer being beaten to death by the mob. One officer was caught in a door but survived.
      - NoPicklez 6y ago
        I believe the person who died from the the head strike from the fire extinguisher was the officer who got beaten to death.
entropea 6y ago
Did they forcibly enter into the White House, or like outside on public property? Protests with injuries aren't uncommon, but I really doubt they forcibly entered a government building and threatened people inside. Police & military are always well prepared ahead of time, well researched, in mass for leftist agitators.
BoorishBears 6y ago
I don't know where you've been living that you didn't hear about the night Trump went into a bunmer. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-took-trump-to-underground-bunker-amid-george-floyd-protests https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-took-trump-t... https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-05-31-20/h_cb459ab077b164295d8d61d80987e3fb https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-05-31... https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2020/05/secret-service-statement-pennsylvania-avenue-demonstrations https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2020/05/secr... You'll notice some very interesting words there in the Secret Service write up: > No individuals crossed the White House Fence and no Secret Service protectees were ever in any danger. Does that sound like the scene at the Capitol where Congresspeople were hidden behind a makeshift barricade while an officer was forced to shoot a woman dead literal steps away from them?
- edbob 6y ago
  From your own source: > Numerous Secret Service agents were injured, fires set by rioters blazed near the White House and authorities were searching for car bombs > The official initially put the number of agents injured at over 50, but that may have referred to the weekend toll; the Secret Service has since said the number injured on Sunday was 14. 50 people injured is a serious attack. It's interesting that leftists are allowed to continue their violent attacks for days, weeks, or months while right-wing movements are immediately suppressed. Yet we're supposed to be afraid of right-wing violence. Right.
  - BoorishBears 6y ago
    You dodged the question with expert precision and ignored your very dishonest insinuation that this wasn't treated as a big deal. I linked multiple sources precisely to show it's your own fault you didn't know. No one hid or censored it.: > Does that sound like the scene at the Capitol where Congresspeople were hidden behind a makeshift barricade while an officer was forced to shoot a woman dead literal steps away from them? When even the Secret Service is referring to them as injuries at a demonstration and saying that despite the injuries (for which 11 people needed medical attention, none of them with life threatening injury) no protectees were ever in harms way... who are you to overrule them? - And are you seriously complaining that the movement that actually breached the Capitol was... immediately shut down? Are you daft? You think if the May protestors had actually gotten into the White House they'd just be fine? - The irony here is delicious, one group was fought tooth and nail from even entering the grounds of the White House. They were teargassed for even being on public property for a photo op! An old man was given a TBI that left him bleeding from the ears and unable to walk for trying to return a police helmet near the _stairs_ to a government building The other group literally walked into the Capitol and had cops taking selfies with them. And yet you want to paint the former group as having gotten off easy? It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Imagine trying to paint being against political violence as a partisan issue.
ta1602267597 6y ago
I particularly appreciate Sam Harris' take on the event in light of the prior BLM protests : https://samharris.org/podcasts/230-insurrection-lies/ https://samharris.org/podcasts/230-insurrection-lies/ It's interesting he notes the ripple effects BLM protests in the capitol coming to head here. ~28:03 in the podcast >[00:28:03] It could be something that reaches all the way to Trump, or it could be due to the fact that the mayor of D.C. didn't like the heavy handed federal response to the BLM demonstrations that happened in D.C., in particular when Trump orchestrated his photo op in front of the church. So ironically, it could be a fairly woak mayor is resistance to heavy handed policing that left the capital undefended. That would be amazing to have that be the underlying cause of what is now being alleged to be proof positive of the truth of white supremacy and white privilege governing law enforcement in this country.

cochne 6y ago

Can you provide a source please?

at_a_remove 6y ago
I could, but why not search for it? As an exciting exercise, look at who reported it and, more interestingly, who didn't. Examine how the event was described, when it was described at all.
- cochne 6y ago
  I only asked after searching for it failing to find a good source
Uhhrrr 6y ago
I hadn't heard about it either, but this Guardian article backs it up: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/protest-washington-dc-george-floyd-white-house-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/protest-wash...
- teachrdan 6y ago
  From the article: "The Secret Service said in a statement on Saturday that six protesters were arrested in Washington and “multiple” officers were injured. There were no details on the charges or nature of the injuries. A spokesman for US park police said their officers made no arrests, but several suffered minor injuries and one was taken to a hospital after being struck in the helmet by a projectile." A few injuries, with perhaps only one serious enough to lead to a hospitalization. A far cry from a police officer beaten to death by a mob of right wingers invading the Capitol.
  - mberning 6y ago
    You seem to forget or ignore that one capitol rioter was shot in the neck/face and died. One officer allegedly died from a head strike from a fire extinguisher. Another committed suicide. I am not aware of any officer being beaten to death by the mob. One officer was caught in a door but survived.
    - NoPicklez 6y ago
      I believe the person who died from the the head strike from the fire extinguisher was the officer who got beaten to death.

entropea 6y ago

Did they forcibly enter into the White House, or like outside on public property? Protests with injuries aren't uncommon, but I really doubt they forcibly entered a government building and threatened people inside. Police & military are always well prepared ahead of time, well researched, in mass for leftist agitators.

BoorishBears 6y ago

I don't know where you've been living that you didn't hear about the night Trump went into a bunmer. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-took-trump-to-underground-bunker-amid-george-floyd-protests https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-took-trump-t... https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-05-31-20/h_cb459ab077b164295d8d61d80987e3fb https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-05-31... https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2020/05/secret-service-statement-pennsylvania-avenue-demonstrations https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2020/05/secr... You'll notice some very interesting words there in the Secret Service write up: > No individuals crossed the White House Fence and no Secret Service protectees were ever in any danger. Does that sound like the scene at the Capitol where Congresspeople were hidden behind a makeshift barricade while an officer was forced to shoot a woman dead literal steps away from them?

edbob 6y ago
From your own source: > Numerous Secret Service agents were injured, fires set by rioters blazed near the White House and authorities were searching for car bombs > The official initially put the number of agents injured at over 50, but that may have referred to the weekend toll; the Secret Service has since said the number injured on Sunday was 14. 50 people injured is a serious attack. It's interesting that leftists are allowed to continue their violent attacks for days, weeks, or months while right-wing movements are immediately suppressed. Yet we're supposed to be afraid of right-wing violence. Right.
- BoorishBears 6y ago
  You dodged the question with expert precision and ignored your very dishonest insinuation that this wasn't treated as a big deal. I linked multiple sources precisely to show it's your own fault you didn't know. No one hid or censored it.: > Does that sound like the scene at the Capitol where Congresspeople were hidden behind a makeshift barricade while an officer was forced to shoot a woman dead literal steps away from them? When even the Secret Service is referring to them as injuries at a demonstration and saying that despite the injuries (for which 11 people needed medical attention, none of them with life threatening injury) no protectees were ever in harms way... who are you to overrule them? - And are you seriously complaining that the movement that actually breached the Capitol was... immediately shut down? Are you daft? You think if the May protestors had actually gotten into the White House they'd just be fine? - The irony here is delicious, one group was fought tooth and nail from even entering the grounds of the White House. They were teargassed for even being on public property for a photo op! An old man was given a TBI that left him bleeding from the ears and unable to walk for trying to return a police helmet near the _stairs_ to a government building The other group literally walked into the Capitol and had cops taking selfies with them. And yet you want to paint the former group as having gotten off easy? It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Imagine trying to paint being against political violence as a partisan issue.

ta1602267597 6y ago

I particularly appreciate Sam Harris' take on the event in light of the prior BLM protests : https://samharris.org/podcasts/230-insurrection-lies/ https://samharris.org/podcasts/230-insurrection-lies/ It's interesting he notes the ripple effects BLM protests in the capitol coming to head here. ~28:03 in the podcast >[00:28:03] It could be something that reaches all the way to Trump, or it could be due to the fact that the mayor of D.C. didn't like the heavy handed federal response to the BLM demonstrations that happened in D.C., in particular when Trump orchestrated his photo op in front of the church. So ironically, it could be a fairly woak mayor is resistance to heavy handed policing that left the capital undefended. That would be amazing to have that be the underlying cause of what is now being alleged to be proof positive of the truth of white supremacy and white privilege governing law enforcement in this country.