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I don't disagree with you. The evidence appears to support that conclusion, so I'm trying to understand why Facebook is given a pass. IMO Facebook has been the

I don't disagree with you. The evidence appears to support that conclusion, so I'm trying to understand why Facebook is given a pass. IMO Facebook has been the single greatest catalyst for abusive online behavior in twenty years, but it's in a protected class. I would like to know why. Is it just money?

trident5000 6y ago
Because dems took total power in the elections and Apple and Google know they are under the antitrust microscope. Its likely indirect bribery in hopes of a returned favor.
- yonaguska 6y ago
  Seems like every time big tech went in front of congress- it turned into a public fishing expedition for lobbying dollars. Democrats overwhelmingly called for censorship and regulation. Republicans overwhelmingly complained of unfair treatment. Big tech responds by preemptively censoring and regulating content. I believe that regulation is coming with dems in total power. Regulation will be written and paid for by big tech as a means to consolidate regulatory capture. I think you're right, it's indirect bribery. I doubt anything will be done about it.
spoonjim 6y ago
It’s also, what functions does Facebook serve beyond organizing violence? Clearly it’s a lot. You can reasonably discuss banning handguns because they are only used to commit violence. You can’t reasonably discussing the ban of all knives, telling people who ask “how am I supposed to cook?” that they just need to bite their food into little pieces.
- brummm 6y ago
  It's probably also rooted in the fact that the owner/CEO of facebook is much richer and better connected.
  - compiler-guy 6y ago
    Apple has a long history of willingness to kneecap Facebook. So reluctance to take on Zuck is not likely the reason. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/16/tech/facebook-apple-ios-privacy-rules/index.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/16/tech...
- ttt0 6y ago
  Are you implying that Parler was created specifically to organize violence? If that's what you're saying then please provide a clear evidence that proves this is the case. Saying something like that just seems really dishonest in most, if not all, contexts.
  - spoonjim 6y ago
    I can tell you that the content on Parler was, on a percentage basis, far closer to incitement of violence than, say, Reddit. I saw this for myself. I cannot tell you the motivations of the founders since I’m not a mind reader.
    - ttt0 6y ago
      I think that's plausible, but I just have to question the framing that Parler served no other purpose than organizing violence. As an aside, Reddit is pretty tame in general, a more fair comparison would be against Facebook or Twitter.
      - spoonjim 6y ago
        Hard for me to say what Facebook “is” because everyone’s is different. Mine has a lot more folk music on it than politics, for example. That’s one of the problems with it, no watchdog group (like the media) can evaluate it objectively and say “this is what it is.”
jnwatson 6y ago
In reality, it is because Facebook hosts its own infrastructure and doesn't have to answer to anyone. There were no government edicts behind Parler going down. It was just individual decisions made by other corporations.
- ttt0 6y ago
  The infrastructure is one thing, but they still have to work with other companies to put their applications on Apple store, Google Play etc.
- kodah 6y ago
  I'm sure backbone providers can be pressured in the same way a cloud provider can.
kube-system 6y ago
I think people treat Facebook differently than Parler because Facebook is a mainstream communications platform and Parler was founded specifically to host content that other platforms found objectionable.

trident5000 6y ago

Because dems took total power in the elections and Apple and Google know they are under the antitrust microscope. Its likely indirect bribery in hopes of a returned favor.

yonaguska 6y ago
Seems like every time big tech went in front of congress- it turned into a public fishing expedition for lobbying dollars. Democrats overwhelmingly called for censorship and regulation. Republicans overwhelmingly complained of unfair treatment. Big tech responds by preemptively censoring and regulating content. I believe that regulation is coming with dems in total power. Regulation will be written and paid for by big tech as a means to consolidate regulatory capture. I think you're right, it's indirect bribery. I doubt anything will be done about it.

spoonjim 6y ago

It’s also, what functions does Facebook serve beyond organizing violence? Clearly it’s a lot. You can reasonably discuss banning handguns because they are only used to commit violence. You can’t reasonably discussing the ban of all knives, telling people who ask “how am I supposed to cook?” that they just need to bite their food into little pieces.

brummm 6y ago
It's probably also rooted in the fact that the owner/CEO of facebook is much richer and better connected.
- compiler-guy 6y ago
  Apple has a long history of willingness to kneecap Facebook. So reluctance to take on Zuck is not likely the reason. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/16/tech/facebook-apple-ios-privacy-rules/index.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/16/tech...
ttt0 6y ago
Are you implying that Parler was created specifically to organize violence? If that's what you're saying then please provide a clear evidence that proves this is the case. Saying something like that just seems really dishonest in most, if not all, contexts.
- spoonjim 6y ago
  I can tell you that the content on Parler was, on a percentage basis, far closer to incitement of violence than, say, Reddit. I saw this for myself. I cannot tell you the motivations of the founders since I’m not a mind reader.
  - ttt0 6y ago
    I think that's plausible, but I just have to question the framing that Parler served no other purpose than organizing violence. As an aside, Reddit is pretty tame in general, a more fair comparison would be against Facebook or Twitter.
    - spoonjim 6y ago
      Hard for me to say what Facebook “is” because everyone’s is different. Mine has a lot more folk music on it than politics, for example. That’s one of the problems with it, no watchdog group (like the media) can evaluate it objectively and say “this is what it is.”

jnwatson 6y ago

In reality, it is because Facebook hosts its own infrastructure and doesn't have to answer to anyone. There were no government edicts behind Parler going down. It was just individual decisions made by other corporations.

ttt0 6y ago
The infrastructure is one thing, but they still have to work with other companies to put their applications on Apple store, Google Play etc.
kodah 6y ago
I'm sure backbone providers can be pressured in the same way a cloud provider can.

kube-system 6y ago

I think people treat Facebook differently than Parler because Facebook is a mainstream communications platform and Parler was founded specifically to host content that other platforms found objectionable.