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> Oppressing Nazis is still oppressive, nazis are people too. But choosing not to associate with Nazis isn't oppressing them.

• ivalm 6y ago
  And that’s why I think the Twitter/fb bans are ok. But common infra and monopolistic stores are not. Store, esp apple store, is more of a utility. There are no alternatives.
  • yellowapple 6y ago
    > There are no alternatives. The alternative is to not use iOS-based devices, which seems like a pretty good idea all around from a transparency avenue (and like I've said before on this site, like the broken record I am: transparency is a dependency of trust). That's exactly Librem's argument, and it's a compelling one: you have no control over the device or visibility into the software running on it, so how can you trust it to be operating for your benefit instead of that of some third party? Even Android devices typically allow sideloading, and quite a few even support custom ROMs. That is: even devices with software maintained by a literal ad company are more transparent - and therefore more trustworthy, even if only marginally - than any iPhone or iPad.
    • ivalm 6y ago
      But your argument isn't really meaningful to majority of phone users -- they are not sophisticated enough to do side loadings or installing custom ROMs or using poorly supported stacks. What they do need is reliable phone that does things that they need them to do, and there is no real alternative for this case. It's why Linux desktop is still not a real alternative to Windows desktop (and I say this as someone who runs linux at home and professionally writes code that runs on linux servers).