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Did you read the blog post? They are mad about trademark violation and an allegation that their commercial code has been ripped off by Amazon through a third pa

by jamra 6y ago

Did you read the blog post? They are mad about trademark violation and an allegation that their commercial code has been ripped off by Amazon through a third party. They have Elasticsearch trademarked and you can't use their name with your name on it. In their mind, it is a violation.

cactus2093 6y ago
Yes but how does changing their license affect a trademark? If they are legally in the right and this is a violation of their trademark they should win their lawsuit about it regardless. Also my initial question was not purely rhetorical, I would assume "Linux" is also trademarked so I'm wondering what is the difference there and why Redhat selling RHEL has not been the same problem.
- Omie6541 6y ago
  I think it's not the same problem because Red Hat contributes heavily back to Linux kernel
- hvis 6y ago
  Because Linus has no problems with Red Hat? And because Red Hat employs a lot of the key contributors to the Linux kernel? Also: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2671387/linus-gets-tough-on-linux-trademark.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2671387/linus-gets-tough-o...
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  - cactus2093 6y ago
    I don't think Redhat could have built their whole business on the just the implied understanding that Linus is cool with it. I'm more talking about the trademark issue, did they legally get the right to use the Linux trademark in some way that Amazon Elasticsearch didn't? Just curious if there is any substance to what Elastic is claiming here or if it's purely a PR stunt. Edit: based on the Linux Foundation link in another comment, it seems they have a clear process for sublicensing the trademark. So I guess Elastic is claiming AWS just launched their ES service without their legal team ever having bothered looking into the trademark? That seems very strange for such a large company.
- jrv 6y ago
  See https://www.linuxfoundation.org/the-linux-mark/ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/the-linux-mark/
- richardwhiuk 6y ago
  I think they'll lose the trademark case.

by jamra 6y ago

cactus2093 6y ago

Yes but how does changing their license affect a trademark? If they are legally in the right and this is a violation of their trademark they should win their lawsuit about it regardless. Also my initial question was not purely rhetorical, I would assume "Linux" is also trademarked so I'm wondering what is the difference there and why Redhat selling RHEL has not been the same problem.

Omie6541 6y ago
I think it's not the same problem because Red Hat contributes heavily back to Linux kernel
hvis 6y ago
Because Linus has no problems with Red Hat? And because Red Hat employs a lot of the key contributors to the Linux kernel? Also: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2671387/linus-gets-tough-on-linux-trademark.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2671387/linus-gets-tough-o...
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- cactus2093 6y ago
  I don't think Redhat could have built their whole business on the just the implied understanding that Linus is cool with it. I'm more talking about the trademark issue, did they legally get the right to use the Linux trademark in some way that Amazon Elasticsearch didn't? Just curious if there is any substance to what Elastic is claiming here or if it's purely a PR stunt. Edit: based on the Linux Foundation link in another comment, it seems they have a clear process for sublicensing the trademark. So I guess Elastic is claiming AWS just launched their ES service without their legal team ever having bothered looking into the trademark? That seems very strange for such a large company.
jrv 6y ago
See https://www.linuxfoundation.org/the-linux-mark/ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/the-linux-mark/
richardwhiuk 6y ago
I think they'll lose the trademark case.