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When your DNS provider removes your record... When your cellular connection becomes an app... When your contact list is removed or hidden... When your text a

When your DNS provider removes your record... When your cellular connection becomes an app... When your contact list is removed or hidden... When your text app is locked... When your ISP kills your account... When your webhost provider deletes your site and/or content... When they selectively track your location and post it to political groups they support... When your car GPS stops navigating. When your car won't start to support a suggested lockdown they support... When your cable channel drops all "opposing" news media... How much of Orwell's 1984 do you want?

viggity 6y ago
Hell. Even Twilio (a common carrier) banned Parler. AFAICT Parler wasn't using Twilio to forward harassing messages. It used it for 2FA. And I'm sure they'll get away with it. It's just nuts.
- calciphus 6y ago
  For what it's worth, Twilio states they did not ban Parler. Some rando Twitter comment thread started that rumor. https://twitter.com/twilio/status/1348719143172927491?s=20 https://twitter.com/twilio/status/1348719143172927491?s=20 Twilio said the Parler platform was in violation of the acceptable use policy (not just the use of Twilio services), and was told by Parler that they had already disabled Twilio.
  - viggity 6y ago
    A common carrier can't ban you from using their services because they happen to not like aspects of your business. Parler was sending 2fa codes with twilio. They were not using twilio sms as an interface to parler's user generated content.
jf22 6y ago
I believe 1984 was about the government rewriting reality and not private industry.
- fsflover 6y ago
  What's the difference for the people?
  - jf22 6y ago
    Which people and what scenario? At a base level comparing a government telling you which fictional truths to believe to a private company providing a technology service is difficult.
    - fsflover 6y ago
      > private company providing a technology service You mean "private company deciding what is right and wrong"?
      - jf22 6y ago
        Yes, a private company can decide people who wear orange shirts are wrong and ban access from people wearing orange shirts.
        fsflover 6y ago
        Can a private water company decide that people in orange shirts should not get water? Same here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25835408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25835408.
        timeon 6y ago
        death threats != people in shirts
        fsflover 6y ago
        Who decides what is death threats and what isn't? Private corporations-monopolies?
RoyTyrell 6y ago
You obviously have not read and understood any of 1984 if you believe that. Please describe how every action you list related to Parler and 1984.
vfclists 6y ago
For a company who knew that they were bound to fall foul of the ideological stances of their providers, they should have planned for such an event. The most likely reason for that is that the companies owners were fake people who wanted to profile a particular segment of the society, or they were poorly advised by the IT guys.

viggity 6y ago

Hell. Even Twilio (a common carrier) banned Parler. AFAICT Parler wasn't using Twilio to forward harassing messages. It used it for 2FA. And I'm sure they'll get away with it. It's just nuts.

calciphus 6y ago
For what it's worth, Twilio states they did not ban Parler. Some rando Twitter comment thread started that rumor. https://twitter.com/twilio/status/1348719143172927491?s=20 https://twitter.com/twilio/status/1348719143172927491?s=20 Twilio said the Parler platform was in violation of the acceptable use policy (not just the use of Twilio services), and was told by Parler that they had already disabled Twilio.
- viggity 6y ago
  A common carrier can't ban you from using their services because they happen to not like aspects of your business. Parler was sending 2fa codes with twilio. They were not using twilio sms as an interface to parler's user generated content.

jf22 6y ago

I believe 1984 was about the government rewriting reality and not private industry.

fsflover 6y ago
What's the difference for the people?
- jf22 6y ago
  Which people and what scenario? At a base level comparing a government telling you which fictional truths to believe to a private company providing a technology service is difficult.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    > private company providing a technology service You mean "private company deciding what is right and wrong"?
    - jf22 6y ago
      Yes, a private company can decide people who wear orange shirts are wrong and ban access from people wearing orange shirts.
      - fsflover 6y ago
        Can a private water company decide that people in orange shirts should not get water? Same here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25835408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25835408.
        timeon 6y ago
        death threats != people in shirts
        fsflover 6y ago
        Who decides what is death threats and what isn't? Private corporations-monopolies?

RoyTyrell 6y ago

You obviously have not read and understood any of 1984 if you believe that. Please describe how every action you list related to Parler and 1984.

vfclists 6y ago

For a company who knew that they were bound to fall foul of the ideological stances of their providers, they should have planned for such an event. The most likely reason for that is that the companies owners were fake people who wanted to profile a particular segment of the society, or they were poorly advised by the IT guys.