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Redis itself is proper open source. There are a few modules, completely separate from the Redis code base, that aren't open source (even though Redis Labs will

Redis itself is proper open source. There are a few modules, completely separate from the Redis code base, that aren't open source (even though Redis Labs will claim they are, like how Elastic claim Elasticsearch is open source). The other non-open-source-but-wants-open-source-clout is Mongo.

brodouevencode 6y ago
I think it's more about the source of the revenue stream. Redis (from what I know, which is minimal) relies more on support - they have a hosted solution but support/licensing of modules is where they really make money. Elastic relies on hosting - they've invested a lot in infrastructure.
- paxys 6y ago
  No, the difference is that Elastic is a massive $15 billion company which needs more revenue to survive, while Redis is still largely run by one person.
  - rsstack 6y ago
    This isn't true. Salvatore retired earlier this year. Redis is run, more or less, by Redis Labs which is valued at $1 billion.
    - aries185 6y ago
      While it is true that Salvatore retired last year, Redis is still FOSS under the BSD license, and it has a new governance team. Redis Labs is in the drivers seat with 3 of the 5 members, including 2 Project Leads. But there are members from Alibaba and AWS https://redis.io/topics/governance https://redis.io/topics/governance If Redis Labs were to do something stupid with the Redis OSS license, Alibaba and AWS would fork it faster than you can HyperLogLog. Too help clear up confusion between Redis & Redis Labs, you can read about the various licenses here: https://redislabs.com/legal/licenses/ https://redislabs.com/legal/licenses/
- rsstack 6y ago
  This isn't true. Modules are free (unless you're a hosting competitor) so there is no licensing revenue there. They might be charging a handful of enterprise customers for special module support, but that isn't their main revenue stream. Their revenue is from Redis Enterprise which is a Redis hosting solution (managed cloud, unmanaged cloud or on-prem). Redis Enterprise is entirely closed-source, but it's an infrastructure management system and not a data store (it isn't Redis).
- kristoff_it 6y ago
  Redis Labs only supports Redis Enterprise. They're not in the business of offering support for Redis.

brodouevencode 6y ago

I think it's more about the source of the revenue stream. Redis (from what I know, which is minimal) relies more on support - they have a hosted solution but support/licensing of modules is where they really make money. Elastic relies on hosting - they've invested a lot in infrastructure.

paxys 6y ago
No, the difference is that Elastic is a massive $15 billion company which needs more revenue to survive, while Redis is still largely run by one person.
- rsstack 6y ago
  This isn't true. Salvatore retired earlier this year. Redis is run, more or less, by Redis Labs which is valued at $1 billion.
  - aries185 6y ago
    While it is true that Salvatore retired last year, Redis is still FOSS under the BSD license, and it has a new governance team. Redis Labs is in the drivers seat with 3 of the 5 members, including 2 Project Leads. But there are members from Alibaba and AWS https://redis.io/topics/governance https://redis.io/topics/governance If Redis Labs were to do something stupid with the Redis OSS license, Alibaba and AWS would fork it faster than you can HyperLogLog. Too help clear up confusion between Redis & Redis Labs, you can read about the various licenses here: https://redislabs.com/legal/licenses/ https://redislabs.com/legal/licenses/
rsstack 6y ago
This isn't true. Modules are free (unless you're a hosting competitor) so there is no licensing revenue there. They might be charging a handful of enterprise customers for special module support, but that isn't their main revenue stream. Their revenue is from Redis Enterprise which is a Redis hosting solution (managed cloud, unmanaged cloud or on-prem). Redis Enterprise is entirely closed-source, but it's an infrastructure management system and not a data store (it isn't Redis).
kristoff_it 6y ago
Redis Labs only supports Redis Enterprise. They're not in the business of offering support for Redis.