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Does not always work like that. Did people „want“ cars when there were only horses. Or Facebook when there was just email. Sometimes you build something and onl

Does not always work like that. Did people „want“ cars when there were only horses. Or Facebook when there was just email. Sometimes you build something and only after people realise that they want built thing.

coldtea 6y ago
>Did people „want“ cars when there were only horses. That's not the right question (as based on the well-known quote). The right question is: if I showed people a car on actual paved roads, with its load capacity and speed benefits over horses, would they jump for it? And they did. But for this thing, they didn't. This person didn't merely talk about his yet un-made app to some people who couldn't even imagine what could be. He showcased it, working in full form, and different target audiences could not care less.
- murukesh_s 6y ago
  Thats not entirely true. You can't build car, paved roads, load capacity in one go, you got to make the first horse cart without the horse.. and many would object saying horse is literally free, why should i pay for fuel. where would i refuel wheres the horse can feed itself. horse can drive itself if necessary etc.. There is no single formula for success. Sometimes you are too early and you fail. Snake oil startups are getting billion dollar valuations while a legitimate idea may be rotting in another corner of the world. It's a combination of lot of things. Sometimes I feel many of the yc companies are successful not because people are jumping to buy the license, but because they have a network effect and are vetted by a community and perceive it as the better option while it may not be such. Connections, Money, Advices, Talent, Idea, Marketing, Sales, Management - every single thing is part of the puzzle. Somtimes you are lucky to get the market fit right of the bat, but many times you have to try hard and struggle a lot before you even have a chance to have a glimpse of market fit. In the case of the author of the blog, if he had build a hype around his product like this is the next biggest thing and got a network effect going (your peer doctors are using it) it may have turned out way different. He wouldn't need to charge it initially or have a free plan that is good enough to get them hooked etc. Don't know there are thousands of variations possible. He simply stopped too early IMO.
Plyphon_ 6y ago
You're looking at the solution. Not validating the problem. Think about the problem horses/cars were solving. It's clear people 'wanted' that problem being solved just by how prevalent horse-as-utility were.
acvny 6y ago
Yes, they wanted cars before the cars got invented. The wanted greater speed, more comfort, less trouble. People didn't care whether it took the shape of a "car" or of a "sdflkjsdkj". As long as the invention satisfied their needs, people were willing to pay for it. This stands true always.

coldtea 6y ago

>Did people „want“ cars when there were only horses. That's not the right question (as based on the well-known quote). The right question is: if I showed people a car on actual paved roads, with its load capacity and speed benefits over horses, would they jump for it? And they did. But for this thing, they didn't. This person didn't merely talk about his yet un-made app to some people who couldn't even imagine what could be. He showcased it, working in full form, and different target audiences could not care less.

murukesh_s 6y ago
Thats not entirely true. You can't build car, paved roads, load capacity in one go, you got to make the first horse cart without the horse.. and many would object saying horse is literally free, why should i pay for fuel. where would i refuel wheres the horse can feed itself. horse can drive itself if necessary etc.. There is no single formula for success. Sometimes you are too early and you fail. Snake oil startups are getting billion dollar valuations while a legitimate idea may be rotting in another corner of the world. It's a combination of lot of things. Sometimes I feel many of the yc companies are successful not because people are jumping to buy the license, but because they have a network effect and are vetted by a community and perceive it as the better option while it may not be such. Connections, Money, Advices, Talent, Idea, Marketing, Sales, Management - every single thing is part of the puzzle. Somtimes you are lucky to get the market fit right of the bat, but many times you have to try hard and struggle a lot before you even have a chance to have a glimpse of market fit. In the case of the author of the blog, if he had build a hype around his product like this is the next biggest thing and got a network effect going (your peer doctors are using it) it may have turned out way different. He wouldn't need to charge it initially or have a free plan that is good enough to get them hooked etc. Don't know there are thousands of variations possible. He simply stopped too early IMO.

Plyphon_ 6y ago

You're looking at the solution. Not validating the problem. Think about the problem horses/cars were solving. It's clear people 'wanted' that problem being solved just by how prevalent horse-as-utility were.

acvny 6y ago

Yes, they wanted cars before the cars got invented. The wanted greater speed, more comfort, less trouble. People didn't care whether it took the shape of a "car" or of a "sdflkjsdkj". As long as the invention satisfied their needs, people were willing to pay for it. This stands true always.