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Suffering will come to most people eventually; no need to do fancy summoning rituals. > When we each learned to suffer, we also learned that the suffering even

Suffering will come to most people eventually; no need to do fancy summoning rituals. > When we each learned to suffer, we also learned that the suffering eventually ends Oh that that were true! I think it's a bit naive to call endurance suffering. I get that it might be nice to be able to experience endurance in a pure/controlled enough form where it can be retroactively framed as a positive experience / accepted as a nurturing challenge, but...

notesinthefield 6y ago
The capital 'S' suffering of poverty and the suffering of sport are so obviously incomparable, why approach pedantry?
- ehnto 6y ago
  I don't think the difference is obvious to everyone, especially not everyone in a position to suffer for sport. Poverty is not the only suffering out there either, imagine someone choosing to be in pain and boasting about how they conquered it from the eyes of a chronic pain sufferer.
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- kayodelycaon 6y ago
  It’s great that some people can suffer for fun. I’d like to see them try to survive my life where there is no end, no escape, no relief. Only death will finally take the pain away. There may be a difference in kind between sport and what I deal with but I gotta tell ya, I’ve yet to see anyone who can actually see the difference.
  - notesinthefield 6y ago
    Im going to vapid for a second and im sorry to be an invalidator but I dont think discussing your existential suffering in a thread regarding the difficulty of sport is worth the time and you can see that.
- Ericson2314 6y ago
  All the classic conservative writing complaining of lazy poor people would seemingly not know the difference.
op03 6y ago
I always thought it was the opposite. Struggling through something gets my mind of something else.
jonahrd 6y ago
That's definitely the sentiment I most disagreed with in this article. It's summed up pretty succinctly in Sufferfest 2 [1, 13:20] (aptly named). "We're lucky to be able to electively suffer like this" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri4CbP_E7oo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri4CbP_E7oo

notesinthefield 6y ago

The capital 'S' suffering of poverty and the suffering of sport are so obviously incomparable, why approach pedantry?

ehnto 6y ago
I don't think the difference is obvious to everyone, especially not everyone in a position to suffer for sport. Poverty is not the only suffering out there either, imagine someone choosing to be in pain and boasting about how they conquered it from the eyes of a chronic pain sufferer.
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kayodelycaon 6y ago
It’s great that some people can suffer for fun. I’d like to see them try to survive my life where there is no end, no escape, no relief. Only death will finally take the pain away. There may be a difference in kind between sport and what I deal with but I gotta tell ya, I’ve yet to see anyone who can actually see the difference.
- notesinthefield 6y ago
  Im going to vapid for a second and im sorry to be an invalidator but I dont think discussing your existential suffering in a thread regarding the difficulty of sport is worth the time and you can see that.
Ericson2314 6y ago
All the classic conservative writing complaining of lazy poor people would seemingly not know the difference.

op03 6y ago

I always thought it was the opposite. Struggling through something gets my mind of something else.

jonahrd 6y ago

That's definitely the sentiment I most disagreed with in this article. It's summed up pretty succinctly in Sufferfest 2 [1, 13:20] (aptly named). "We're lucky to be able to electively suffer like this" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri4CbP_E7oo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri4CbP_E7oo