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Erich Schmidt's audacity is both telling and shocking. This is pretty much the equivalent of an armed robber saying that everyone can still be save from harm, a
by elmo2you 6y ago
Erich Schmidt's audacity is both telling and shocking. This is pretty much the equivalent of an armed robber saying that everyone can still be save from harm, as long as you just stay home and don't go outside. Probably the biggest shame here is how people like Schmidt still have platforms to suggest these kind of things unhindered, without any punishment.
I do not know how this particularly works in the USA, but in most reasonable countries I know of, the ways in which anyone (company/government/etc) can interact with anyone who isn't a legal adult are limited. For good reasons too, I believe. I think it even is dictated by signed/ratified international treaties/declarations, but I don't recall any details right now.
I'm pretty sure that the tracking of minors (or the unborn), essentially surveillance, is actually in violation of the legal protections those are supposed to have. I've heard plenty people argue that this tracking is somehow admissible, if their legal guardians sign off on it. Often based on the assertion that legal guardians are responsible for those under their care. However, the legal protects of minors are a thing on their own. As far as I know, guardians can not "give away" the legal protection of minors. No more than any person can "give away" their inalienable human rights (also not by consent), which is what makes them inalienable.
So here we have an industry that in all likelihood is seriously violating the legal protections that minors (and arguably unborn too) are supposed to have. Instead of demanding that governments address these rogue corporations, which considering the systematic nature of their violations probably even warrant to be classified as criminal organizations, we instead listen to what key people in this industry say in an attempt to justify their actions, or suggest as remedy for their behavior.
I'm not really all that shocked about people like Schmidt saying such things. About as predictable as a politician talking any kind of bullshit that will sell their agenda. However, I am appalled that this industry gets away with what it currently does. To me, that says a hell of a lot about the system, and how it apparently prefers to protects these interests instead of protecting the people it legally is supposed to protect.
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- NotChina 6y agoIf only the groups that warned us about big tech had had the sort of support say the EFF has.
- AndrewUnmuted 6y ago> This is pretty much the equivalent of an armed robber saying that everyone can still be save from harm, as long as you just stay home and don't go outside. This also happens to adequately describe how it feels to live in Brooklyn, NY these days...
- yuliyp 6y agoWhat can Eric Schmidt do differently? Let's say Google suddenly made it their #1 priority to make sure to never ever collect profiles about minors. Would that make the advice any less useful? They still have competitors from all around the world who may be less scrupulous than them making that advice still useful. The problem is not individual bad people or bad companies. Take out the ones that exist now and a sea of new adtech startups will take their place.
- jeffreygoesto 6y ago> They still have competitors from all around the world who may be less scrupulous Is robbing ok, because if you don't do it, someone else might?
- colejohnson66 6y agoNo, but knowing how to avoid it doesn’t make you one yourself.
- bryanrasmussen 6y agoNo, but if you are a robber and suggest to people who complain about being robbed by you about how to reduce the problems associated with being robbed in the future it makes you sort of a hypocrite.
- nnnnnande 6y agoThis argument keeps coming up in similar discussions and I don’t really understand it. Can you not imagine a scenario where we didn’t leave everything in the hands of a completely unregulated market?
- yuliyp 6y agoI struggle to see the type of regulation regime that could work effectively to prevent such profiles from being created (the data collection would move overseas and then later be re-sold as contact lists, or as audiences, etc.).