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I don't know what the solution is, but I'm pretty sure it starts way before college I'd be inclined to segregate the schools. No, not by race, by IQ scores. Te

by hugh3 15y ago

I don't know what the solution is, but I'm pretty sure it starts way before college I'd be inclined to segregate the schools. No, not by race, by IQ scores. Test the kids at the age of ten and split 'em up into (say) five groups depending on how well they do, and then truck 'em off to schools strategically placed to have catchment areas spread over a range of socioeconomic areas. The alphas would get the full-on deal, the best education that our species can cram into seven short years. The betas would get a slightly easier set of coursework but still be expected to be fully functional and capable of office work. The epsilons would get remedial literacy and life skills and taught to productively follow orders in order to make it through life without becoming a burglar or meth addict. It may sound cruel, but is it any worse than expecting an IQ 80 doofus to write an essay on Shakespeare?

ipince 15y ago
Well, you could argue that some "IQ segregation" already happens, by virtue of having highly selective private schools, advanced placement, etc. I think the students (or parents when they're too young) should have choice though, and be able to choose how challenging they want their education to be. With high-priced private schools, this is not really the case though.
robobenjie 15y ago
"They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfuly glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard." -Brave New World
zwieback 15y ago
That's sort of how it worked in Germany when I grew up there. At age 10 everyone gets a series of tests that decides whether they go to first, second or third tier schools. Only the first tier (9 years of high school) gets you admission to university. The second tier is meant to shuttle you toward vocational education, which is very good in Germany, and the third tier basically turns you into a laborer. There is some lateral movement between schools but it's pretty rare and in most states the schools are physically separated. I'm not sure what it's like now but at the time it seemed like the system didn't really sort by IQ but much more by the class you were already in. In principle it should be easy to move up but the reality is much different.
MaysonL 15y ago
10 is way too late: take a look at Harlem Children's Zone, and "Baby College". You have to start with prenatal care and parent education to really make a difference.

by hugh3 15y ago

ipince 15y ago

Well, you could argue that some "IQ segregation" already happens, by virtue of having highly selective private schools, advanced placement, etc. I think the students (or parents when they're too young) should have choice though, and be able to choose how challenging they want their education to be. With high-priced private schools, this is not really the case though.

robobenjie 15y ago

"They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfuly glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard." -Brave New World

zwieback 15y ago

That's sort of how it worked in Germany when I grew up there. At age 10 everyone gets a series of tests that decides whether they go to first, second or third tier schools. Only the first tier (9 years of high school) gets you admission to university. The second tier is meant to shuttle you toward vocational education, which is very good in Germany, and the third tier basically turns you into a laborer. There is some lateral movement between schools but it's pretty rare and in most states the schools are physically separated. I'm not sure what it's like now but at the time it seemed like the system didn't really sort by IQ but much more by the class you were already in. In principle it should be easy to move up but the reality is much different.

MaysonL 15y ago

10 is way too late: take a look at Harlem Children's Zone, and "Baby College". You have to start with prenatal care and parent education to really make a difference.