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This comment stream is a great example of HN going downhill. It's literally ten threads of the same half-informed claims with half-informed stock counterargume
by pak 15y ago
This comment stream is a great example of HN going downhill. It's literally ten threads of the same half-informed claims with half-informed stock counterarguments.
We have the: completely unverifiable reversible encryption defense, followed by the complaint that reversible is just as bad, followed by every manner of hypothetical baloney. Then we have the dismissive password generator users, followed by the complaint that this is an irrelevant solution. And of course the smattering of people wanting to publicly shame sites that store in plaintext, like more than 0.01% of the Internet will ever care.
tldr, you no longer have to read these comments, screw the karma this will cost me.
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- adamdecaf 15y agoI totally agree with you. I started to come here a little over two years ago (one-ish with an account) and I've noticed the definite slide towards less "hackerish" statements. This site really exposed me to the raw hacker mindset (other than the distant likes of RMS and ESR) and it's becoming less interesting to read all of the comments on any random story.
- adamdecaf 15y agoWhy the down votes everyone?
- pbreit 15y agoAgree. The HN audience is ill-informed about things like stock market economics (see LinkedIn threads) and more surprisingly, intermediate technical issues.
- beedogs 15y agoThey're all just overflow idiots from reddit lately; one should not expect much out of them.
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- code_duck 15y agoI notice you left out what a 'good' comment stream would consist of. What is the ideal we're failing to live up to?
- pak 15y agoPeople with direct experience with the elements of the OP (Newegg's security or lack thereof) voicing their fully-informed opinions. Maybe a Newegg CSR or security admin. Everybody else is just piling bullshit on top of more bullshit, because we really don't know anything beyond the alleged experience of one customer with a blag. It was said better in another recent comment thread (I forget where): HN comments these days are full of people trying to sound like experts when they have no idea what they are talking about. I post about twice per day, max, and I think that's already more than I deserve to be able to say. Maybe that's what could be enforced here, so that people would really think hard before wasting a comment on hypothetical asides or repeating the same thing ten other people said.
- code_duck 15y agoI'd rather read the other comments than musing by some 'old timers' about how far HN has gone downhill. Not sure whether I need to mention Eternal September or not. Your perspective reminds me of some people on Stack Overflow who have a particular concept of how everyone else should post. If the people here don't live up to your ideals, maybe you should invite someone who works for Newegg to come comment. Hoping everyone else is going to stay quiet until the commenter of your dreams drops by probably isn't much use.
- guelo 15y agoObviously other people didn't downvote this comment, since it is now the top comment, but I did downvote it because I don't think it adds anything to the discussion. We can now add to the list of comment categories in this thread "useless meta complaining". OTOH, the fact that this is the top comment right now kinda proves the point that HN has gone downhill since in the past any meta stuff was immediately obliterated. (And yes, I realize this comment is also useless meta crap, but he started it).
- anonymous246 15y agoOk, I'll bite. Why did you bin the recommendation to use a password generator along with other "baloney" using the adjective "dismissive"? I guess it was directed at my comment about PwdHash. That seems like the only thing that would protect somebody in case Newegg's password database was cracked.
- khafra 15y agoPak called generator users dismissive, not baloney. "Steps users can take to mitigate the effects of a website's security failure" is arguably off-topic in a discussion about that website's security hole. It can be interpreted as minimizing the unnacceptable failure of the site.
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