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> the FBI received a tip from someone who stated they were a former romantic partner of Williams. That says it all.

edoceo 6y ago
Yep! Likely broke off the relationship because she is some combination of dangerous/crazy - partners know a lot of the crazy stuff you've done and not been caught for.
- StanislavPetrov 6y ago
  If people are to be judged by the assertions of their jilted former lovers then we are all in for a very bad time. Any time there is a headline with a very serious and inflammatory claim, like the one above, you would do well to scroll down past the hyperbole and look for the evidence offered (if any) for such a serious charge. The only evidence cited by this article in this accusation of a series of treasonous felonies is purportedly an accusation by an ex-lover. Unfortunately the level of mania is so frenzied in the country right now that rational thought is out the window. Especially concerning to see on Hacker News, where presumably necessary skepticism and critical thinking would be in higher supply.
  - mcphage 6y ago
    > If people are to be judged by the assertions of their jilted former lovers then we are all in for a very bad time. Luckily that's not what she'll be judged by, but instead by whether or not she intended to sell the computer to the Russians.
  - newacct583 6y ago
    It's a stolen laptop, there's physical evidence. And she's on camera in the capitol. Seems like we're judging her on a lot more than just the "assertion" of her "jilted former lover". I mean, this guy's tip that she had the laptop turned out to be correct! But you're saying trusting him about her intent to sell it to Russia demonstrates a lack of "skepticism and critical thinking"?
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    You mean except for the fact that her participation in the invasion of our capital, attempted overthrow of our government, and theft of intelligence was live streamed for literally the entire nation to see. The only assertion we are relying on from the ex for is the fact that after committing multiple felonies on camera she was planning to commit one more. Furthermore although she is entitled to assumption of innocence in a court of law we are required to provide nothing of the sort. If he was merely trying to get back at her why not just turn her in for all the crimes we saw on camera. The simplest explanation is that he is telling the truth.
    - nitrogen 6y ago
      Furthermore although she is entitled to assumption of innocence in a court of law we are required to provide nothing of the sort. Must disagree with this statement in the strongest possible terms. Twitter mob justice is just as undesirable as any previous form of mob justice.
      - michaelmrose 6y ago
        You are entitled to the strongest possible presumption of innocence because the government can take away your freedom or even your life. We are able and ought to use our functioning brains to arrive at merely the most likely conclusion.
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  - IgorPartola 6y ago
    There is video of her leaving the Capitol. Look, if you commit murder but your ex is the witness that points to irrefutable evidence of your guilt, do you get a free get out of jail card because your ex and you aren't together anymore?

Yep! Likely broke off the relationship because she is some combination of dangerous/crazy - partners know a lot of the crazy stuff you've done and not been caught for.

StanislavPetrov 6y ago
If people are to be judged by the assertions of their jilted former lovers then we are all in for a very bad time. Any time there is a headline with a very serious and inflammatory claim, like the one above, you would do well to scroll down past the hyperbole and look for the evidence offered (if any) for such a serious charge. The only evidence cited by this article in this accusation of a series of treasonous felonies is purportedly an accusation by an ex-lover. Unfortunately the level of mania is so frenzied in the country right now that rational thought is out the window. Especially concerning to see on Hacker News, where presumably necessary skepticism and critical thinking would be in higher supply.
- mcphage 6y ago
  > If people are to be judged by the assertions of their jilted former lovers then we are all in for a very bad time. Luckily that's not what she'll be judged by, but instead by whether or not she intended to sell the computer to the Russians.
- newacct583 6y ago
  It's a stolen laptop, there's physical evidence. And she's on camera in the capitol. Seems like we're judging her on a lot more than just the "assertion" of her "jilted former lover". I mean, this guy's tip that she had the laptop turned out to be correct! But you're saying trusting him about her intent to sell it to Russia demonstrates a lack of "skepticism and critical thinking"?
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  You mean except for the fact that her participation in the invasion of our capital, attempted overthrow of our government, and theft of intelligence was live streamed for literally the entire nation to see. The only assertion we are relying on from the ex for is the fact that after committing multiple felonies on camera she was planning to commit one more. Furthermore although she is entitled to assumption of innocence in a court of law we are required to provide nothing of the sort. If he was merely trying to get back at her why not just turn her in for all the crimes we saw on camera. The simplest explanation is that he is telling the truth.
  - nitrogen 6y ago
    Furthermore although she is entitled to assumption of innocence in a court of law we are required to provide nothing of the sort. Must disagree with this statement in the strongest possible terms. Twitter mob justice is just as undesirable as any previous form of mob justice.
    - michaelmrose 6y ago
      You are entitled to the strongest possible presumption of innocence because the government can take away your freedom or even your life. We are able and ought to use our functioning brains to arrive at merely the most likely conclusion.
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- IgorPartola 6y ago
  There is video of her leaving the Capitol. Look, if you commit murder but your ex is the witness that points to irrefutable evidence of your guilt, do you get a free get out of jail card because your ex and you aren't together anymore?