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They've been doing some stellar work, good job. I hope that they are considering to build a sheet music hosting platform as an open alternative to the now "rog

by meibo 6y ago

They've been doing some stellar work, good job. I hope that they are considering to build a sheet music hosting platform as an open alternative to the now "rogue" MuseScore. Sorely missed.

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
Can you explain what you mean by "the now "rogue" MuseScore" ?
- meibo 6y ago
  MuseScore.com, the sheet hosting site tied to the app, has been acquired by a bigger, paid sheet hosting site in 2018[1] and has recently changed its subscription model, monetizing the massive amount of community created content by not allowing free downloads anymore. I'm not in any position to judge them for wanting to make more money but it sure feels like a way to kill off your userbase. [1] https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/ultimate-guitar-acquires-musescore/ https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/ultimate-guitar-acquires-m...
  - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
    AFAIK, that purchase is also what is paying for the core developer group of musescore.org to work on the software. So I'm not sure there's much of a distinction at this point.
  - mkr-hn 6y ago
    This post suggests the company owns the software too: https://blog.musescore.com/post/171048786232/ultimate-guitar-welcomes-musescore https://blog.musescore.com/post/171048786232/ultimate-guitar... >> "We are also building up the MuseScore development team to help the developer community improve MuseScore’s desktop and mobile products quicker. The improvements we work on will continue to be based on the community’s feedback. For example, among other things, there have been numerous requests to improve the functionality of the mobile apps and the quality of the soundfont’s audio. As a result, we have already established a dedicated mobile development team and hired a soundfont specialist to focus on improving these areas. And in case you’re wondering, yes, of course the notation editor will continue to be open source and free." And this appears to grant the company rights to any code people contribute in case they decide to close the source going forward: https://musescore.org/en/cla https://musescore.org/en/cla
  - zappp 6y ago
    Musescore.com and musescore.org has been acquired by Ultimate Guitar. I’m the founder of Ultimate Guitar. Nice to meet you. The situation is this: Musescore.com was about to get shut down because of massive copyright infringement. The future of MS Editor would be unclear under those circumstances. After the acquisition, we’ve made deals with all major music publishers plus thousands of independent publishers to license its offering. The downside of the process is that we had to takedown about 1% of the catalog (however the current offering grew x2 since then). Upside is this: 1. Catalog is still free for everyone 2. Downloads are restricted just for copyrighted songs, because 3. Copyright owners get paid for their content since then 4. Original and public domain songs have no download restriction 5. Since acquisition the team behind MuseScore grew x7 times, as well as open source contributor community grew x2. 6. We are at 3.6 version now, which is the last stable version before 4.x, which is coming this year 7. 4.x will likely feature major workflow improvements, playback improvements, VST support etc. I’m happy to answer all your questions.
    - meibo 6y ago
      Thanks for your answer! That certainly gives it some more context, I appreciate it - shame that even community created "covers" need to be covered by copyright now, since they're often quite transformative, but I guess this is the world we live in. The articles I read on this at the time were putting it in quite a negative light, that must have had an impact on my judgement - either way, I'm happy that you're successful with this model and that you can make scoring music more accessible with your open source software. (I've used musescore from middle school through university, so it's definitely had an impact on me!) Apologies for making unsubstantiated comments and thanks for clarifying.

by meibo 6y ago

They've been doing some stellar work, good job. I hope that they are considering to build a sheet music hosting platform as an open alternative to the now "rogue" MuseScore. Sorely missed.

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago

Can you explain what you mean by "the now "rogue" MuseScore" ?

meibo 6y ago
MuseScore.com, the sheet hosting site tied to the app, has been acquired by a bigger, paid sheet hosting site in 2018[1] and has recently changed its subscription model, monetizing the massive amount of community created content by not allowing free downloads anymore. I'm not in any position to judge them for wanting to make more money but it sure feels like a way to kill off your userbase. [1] https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/ultimate-guitar-acquires-musescore/ https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/ultimate-guitar-acquires-m...
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
  AFAIK, that purchase is also what is paying for the core developer group of musescore.org to work on the software. So I'm not sure there's much of a distinction at this point.
- mkr-hn 6y ago
  This post suggests the company owns the software too: https://blog.musescore.com/post/171048786232/ultimate-guitar-welcomes-musescore https://blog.musescore.com/post/171048786232/ultimate-guitar... >> "We are also building up the MuseScore development team to help the developer community improve MuseScore’s desktop and mobile products quicker. The improvements we work on will continue to be based on the community’s feedback. For example, among other things, there have been numerous requests to improve the functionality of the mobile apps and the quality of the soundfont’s audio. As a result, we have already established a dedicated mobile development team and hired a soundfont specialist to focus on improving these areas. And in case you’re wondering, yes, of course the notation editor will continue to be open source and free." And this appears to grant the company rights to any code people contribute in case they decide to close the source going forward: https://musescore.org/en/cla https://musescore.org/en/cla
- zappp 6y ago
  Musescore.com and musescore.org has been acquired by Ultimate Guitar. I’m the founder of Ultimate Guitar. Nice to meet you. The situation is this: Musescore.com was about to get shut down because of massive copyright infringement. The future of MS Editor would be unclear under those circumstances. After the acquisition, we’ve made deals with all major music publishers plus thousands of independent publishers to license its offering. The downside of the process is that we had to takedown about 1% of the catalog (however the current offering grew x2 since then). Upside is this: 1. Catalog is still free for everyone 2. Downloads are restricted just for copyrighted songs, because 3. Copyright owners get paid for their content since then 4. Original and public domain songs have no download restriction 5. Since acquisition the team behind MuseScore grew x7 times, as well as open source contributor community grew x2. 6. We are at 3.6 version now, which is the last stable version before 4.x, which is coming this year 7. 4.x will likely feature major workflow improvements, playback improvements, VST support etc. I’m happy to answer all your questions.
  - meibo 6y ago
    Thanks for your answer! That certainly gives it some more context, I appreciate it - shame that even community created "covers" need to be covered by copyright now, since they're often quite transformative, but I guess this is the world we live in. The articles I read on this at the time were putting it in quite a negative light, that must have had an impact on my judgement - either way, I'm happy that you're successful with this model and that you can make scoring music more accessible with your open source software. (I've used musescore from middle school through university, so it's definitely had an impact on me!) Apologies for making unsubstantiated comments and thanks for clarifying.