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I think banning online advertising causing these sites to charge their users for the service would right a lot of wrongs automatically, when the free market can

I think banning online advertising causing these sites to charge their users for the service would right a lot of wrongs automatically, when the free market can start to kick in and do it's job. It makes it so Facebook's product becomes online photo sharing, instead of it's current product which is manipulation and addiction. https://www.wired.com/story/why-dont-we-just-ban-targeted-advertising/ https://www.wired.com/story/why-dont-we-just-ban-targeted-ad...

danudey 6y ago
Thanks for this link, it was a great read - and compelling.
slg 6y ago
>I think banning online advertising So you want to limit speech in the name of protecting free speech?
- saalweachter 6y ago
  Don't worry, it's only other people's speech.
- blacksmith_tb 6y ago
  Limiting corporate speech in the name of protecting individual speech seems like a reasonable proposal to me.
  - slg 6y ago
    Corporations aren't the only ones that advertise. Completely eliminating advertising would restrict speech for both corporations and individuals. Maybe I want to create a charity and am looking to raise awareness for a fundraising event I am having. Maybe my dog ran away and I want to get the word out about a monetary reward I am offering for helping to find them. Maybe I am a touring comedian and I want to advertise my next show. Maybe I am an amateur photographer and want volunteer subjects to help hone my craft. The list goes on and on for potential non-corporate uses of advertising. If we want to treat corporate speech and individual speech differently, I think there is a much more important place to start: Citizens United v. FEC.
    - nitrogen 6y ago
      In all of those cases you can just say what you want to say, you don't need to pay for special treatment to put your message in front of an unwilling audience. Restricting advertising isn't restricting speech, it's restricting the ability to pay for special treatment for your own speech.
      - slg 6y ago
        > Restricting advertising isn't restricting speech, it's restricting the ability to pay for special treatment for your own speech. That isn't the way it works in the US. There are some restrictions on advertising, but is fundamentally protected speech in the US and therefore can't be banned outright.
  - bluescrn 6y ago
    Limiting corporate speech seems quite a nice fix to the problem of corporations limiting individual speech

danudey 6y ago

Thanks for this link, it was a great read - and compelling.

slg 6y ago

>I think banning online advertising So you want to limit speech in the name of protecting free speech?

saalweachter 6y ago
Don't worry, it's only other people's speech.
blacksmith_tb 6y ago
Limiting corporate speech in the name of protecting individual speech seems like a reasonable proposal to me.
- slg 6y ago
  Corporations aren't the only ones that advertise. Completely eliminating advertising would restrict speech for both corporations and individuals. Maybe I want to create a charity and am looking to raise awareness for a fundraising event I am having. Maybe my dog ran away and I want to get the word out about a monetary reward I am offering for helping to find them. Maybe I am a touring comedian and I want to advertise my next show. Maybe I am an amateur photographer and want volunteer subjects to help hone my craft. The list goes on and on for potential non-corporate uses of advertising. If we want to treat corporate speech and individual speech differently, I think there is a much more important place to start: Citizens United v. FEC.
  - nitrogen 6y ago
    In all of those cases you can just say what you want to say, you don't need to pay for special treatment to put your message in front of an unwilling audience. Restricting advertising isn't restricting speech, it's restricting the ability to pay for special treatment for your own speech.
    - slg 6y ago
      > Restricting advertising isn't restricting speech, it's restricting the ability to pay for special treatment for your own speech. That isn't the way it works in the US. There are some restrictions on advertising, but is fundamentally protected speech in the US and therefore can't be banned outright.
- bluescrn 6y ago
  Limiting corporate speech seems quite a nice fix to the problem of corporations limiting individual speech