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> you have to help it It's true that some element of grassroots activism will affect outcomes, but I think marketing, longevity, and UX make a larger differenc
by faitswulff 6y ago
> you have to help it
It's true that some element of grassroots activism will affect outcomes, but I think marketing, longevity, and UX make a larger difference.
Either way, getting a federated alternative up to speed in UX or forking Signal will require a lot of work.
- rglullis 6y agoDisagree on the last sentence. You simply can not compare the amount of work that will be required (collectively and individually) in either outcome. Improvements to Matrix are being made, and both Element and the Matrix foundation are supportive of further developments and getting more people onboard. Signal is actively working to get forks to do extra leg-work.
- faitswulff 6y agoAgree to disagree then.
- rglullis 6y agoPlease take a look at https://drewdevault.com/2018/08/08/Signal.html https://drewdevault.com/2018/08/08/Signal.html and tell me if you continue to believe that forking/replicating Signal to make it decentralized would be the same amount of work as improving the UX of a Matrix client.
- faitswulff 6y agoI read it, but I suspect that am fundamentally uninterested in (or not as interested in) the values that you share with the blog author. And you haven't ceded an inch on "centralized services are useless" so I have no motivation to continue this conversation.
- rglullis 6y agoSorry, I have been in many different threads with different people and I don't think ever said "centralized services are useless", have I? What you will usually read from me is that centralized services restrict our freedom, concentrate too much power in one single entity and are not worth the convenience.
- faitswulff 6y agoThat’s the equivalent of saying, “new thread, who dis?” I know what you said, the problem is that you’re not interested in hearing what others say. Especially regarding your bias of deeming centralized services “not worth the convenience” despite popular consensus voting otherwise via installations and usage. By all means hold to your view - you just have to do a better job of convincing others of it.