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The problem for conservative outlets is that we have to believe their word that they are being prosecuted. But their word means absolutely nothing because they

by ralfn 6y ago

The problem for conservative outlets is that we have to believe their word that they are being prosecuted. But their word means absolutely nothing because they have zero credibility since they would be saying these exact same things no matter what. If you always cry fire, you end up in a situation where people don't care if you are lying or that your house is on fire. >. Finally, corporate America will realize that it's better to work with people than fight them Conservative media isn't 'the people' and these tech companies aren't the corporates. The tech companies follow this policy because otherwise their employees walk out. And the so called conservative media is a very tiny super elite spending a ton of money trying to pervert traditional values into a death cult for personal gain.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
Indeed. "Conservatives" have for decades been complaining that Christians are being persecuted... meanwhile the vast majority of the house and senate identifies as Christian and no president has ever identified as any other religion. To them, it seems, not getting everything they want qualifies as persecution.
themaninthedark 6y ago
While I do feel that conservatives pull out the persecution complex... using that as the entire basis for dismissing arguments seems disingenuous. The problem for <i>feminist</i> outlets is that we have to believe their word that they are being prosecuted. >tech companies aren't the corporates. The tech companies follow this policy because otherwise their employees walk out. We at $bigname law firm aren't corporate, it's just if we hire poc our employees will walk out. -someone before the civil rights era. I have the argument that the policy implemented are inherently biased against conservative groups. For example, a policy about misgendering would disproportionately affect conservatives because they feel that sex is an immutable characteristic.
- ralfn 6y ago
  >using that as the entire basis for dismissing arguments seems disingenuous. You are right. The tech firms could be more transparent about the rules they apply and which ones are violated. The ambiguity is indeed solvable, but considering the state of the world, it seems like a low moral priority to me. >We at $bigname law firm aren't corporate, it's just if we hire poc our employees will walk out. -someone before the civil rights era. That's disingenuous. Your comparsions fails in five ways: 1. Its not about who gets hired, its about who is served as a customer 2. The violated rules of these firms are also defined as criminal behavior by law in all of the western world, so to 'serve the customer' you are talking about being an accessory in a crime. Even if public prosecutors don't make a habit of prosecuting companies when they are simply the platform, companies have an obligation to their shareholders to not take unnecessary risks. 3. None of this has anything to do with traditional or conservative values. Both the far-left and far-right have been creating a lot of propaganda suggesting that traditional values include racism, sexism, sedation, anti-semitism, etc. 4. The employees walking out is a realistic problem, because there is barely any supply of death cult members with the intellectual and educational background required to perform the job. I'm sure lots of people work at these tech companies that have traditional values, like a small government and low taxes, or a more family centric focus on life. But at this point those people are referred to as 'traitors' by the same so called conservative media 5. People's skin color isn't a choice. They are born with it. Your views on the other hand are a choice. There is accountability and liability. You can be an anti-semitic person and post a video about how to cook an egg without it being removed from youtube. You just can't express anti-semitic views on somebody else's platform. Not complicated nor an issue.

by ralfn 6y ago

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago

Indeed. "Conservatives" have for decades been complaining that Christians are being persecuted... meanwhile the vast majority of the house and senate identifies as Christian and no president has ever identified as any other religion. To them, it seems, not getting everything they want qualifies as persecution.

themaninthedark 6y ago

While I do feel that conservatives pull out the persecution complex... using that as the entire basis for dismissing arguments seems disingenuous. The problem for <i>feminist</i> outlets is that we have to believe their word that they are being prosecuted. >tech companies aren't the corporates. The tech companies follow this policy because otherwise their employees walk out. We at $bigname law firm aren't corporate, it's just if we hire poc our employees will walk out. -someone before the civil rights era. I have the argument that the policy implemented are inherently biased against conservative groups. For example, a policy about misgendering would disproportionately affect conservatives because they feel that sex is an immutable characteristic.

ralfn 6y ago
>using that as the entire basis for dismissing arguments seems disingenuous. You are right. The tech firms could be more transparent about the rules they apply and which ones are violated. The ambiguity is indeed solvable, but considering the state of the world, it seems like a low moral priority to me. >We at $bigname law firm aren't corporate, it's just if we hire poc our employees will walk out. -someone before the civil rights era. That's disingenuous. Your comparsions fails in five ways: 1. Its not about who gets hired, its about who is served as a customer 2. The violated rules of these firms are also defined as criminal behavior by law in all of the western world, so to 'serve the customer' you are talking about being an accessory in a crime. Even if public prosecutors don't make a habit of prosecuting companies when they are simply the platform, companies have an obligation to their shareholders to not take unnecessary risks. 3. None of this has anything to do with traditional or conservative values. Both the far-left and far-right have been creating a lot of propaganda suggesting that traditional values include racism, sexism, sedation, anti-semitism, etc. 4. The employees walking out is a realistic problem, because there is barely any supply of death cult members with the intellectual and educational background required to perform the job. I'm sure lots of people work at these tech companies that have traditional values, like a small government and low taxes, or a more family centric focus on life. But at this point those people are referred to as 'traitors' by the same so called conservative media 5. People's skin color isn't a choice. They are born with it. Your views on the other hand are a choice. There is accountability and liability. You can be an anti-semitic person and post a video about how to cook an egg without it being removed from youtube. You just can't express anti-semitic views on somebody else's platform. Not complicated nor an issue.