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I disagree with every bullet point in the in that link. Moreover it seems like the guy is just trying to sell a book. Worst, it doesn't even make the case for a

I disagree with every bullet point in the in that link. Moreover it seems like the guy is just trying to sell a book. Worst, it doesn't even make the case for autocracy so it doesn't even support your premise. California is also not a one party state. Please look at the results of the last election and see how many Republicans won office, and what the results of the initiatives were.

olivermarks 6y ago
Kiley is a central valley Republican who is very much behind the recall effort. I'm sure you don't like any of those bullet points if you are a Newsom supporter. Kiley is in a high stakes legal battle with Newsom challenging his autocratic rule and has won subject to Newsom appeals. 'In California, Democrats held trifecta control of state government from 1999 to 2003 and again from 2011 to present. During all other years, California operated under divided government'. https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_go...
- greesil 6y ago
  Yes the Democratic party has dominant position now. The recall just seems like guerilla warfare for no good purpose. We have elections. I don't believe Newsom's leadership is so damaging that he needs to be removed from office before his term is up. And I'm not going to believe it from the Republican side, which is a party that hasn't argued in good faith in the last 50 years, IMO
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    See my parent comment: The problem is even if Newsom/Getty does get replaced there are few credible politicians on the horizon who can handle the massive debt load, complex layers of bureaucracy, alarming levels of graft and extreme levels of economic hardship.
_-david-_ 6y ago
When people say California is a one party state what they mean is the Democratic Party has a super majority along with the governor. Assuming most democrats agree on something nobody can really stop them.
- greesil 6y ago
  Right. When I see one party state I think of the CCP. The better terminology would be the majority party, or the dominant party. I think there's a lot of heterogeneity within the Democratic party in California, especially at the local level, and are much less likely than Republicans to march in lockstep.

olivermarks 6y ago

Kiley is a central valley Republican who is very much behind the recall effort. I'm sure you don't like any of those bullet points if you are a Newsom supporter. Kiley is in a high stakes legal battle with Newsom challenging his autocratic rule and has won subject to Newsom appeals. 'In California, Democrats held trifecta control of state government from 1999 to 2003 and again from 2011 to present. During all other years, California operated under divided government'. https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_go...

greesil 6y ago
Yes the Democratic party has dominant position now. The recall just seems like guerilla warfare for no good purpose. We have elections. I don't believe Newsom's leadership is so damaging that he needs to be removed from office before his term is up. And I'm not going to believe it from the Republican side, which is a party that hasn't argued in good faith in the last 50 years, IMO
- olivermarks 6y ago
  See my parent comment: The problem is even if Newsom/Getty does get replaced there are few credible politicians on the horizon who can handle the massive debt load, complex layers of bureaucracy, alarming levels of graft and extreme levels of economic hardship.

_-david-_ 6y ago

When people say California is a one party state what they mean is the Democratic Party has a super majority along with the governor. Assuming most democrats agree on something nobody can really stop them.

greesil 6y ago
Right. When I see one party state I think of the CCP. The better terminology would be the majority party, or the dominant party. I think there's a lot of heterogeneity within the Democratic party in California, especially at the local level, and are much less likely than Republicans to march in lockstep.