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California is a one party state, completely dominated by the Democrat party. I'm a registered Democrat who was hoping for reforms FWIW. Newsom/Getty is facing

California is a one party state, completely dominated by the Democrat party. I'm a registered Democrat who was hoping for reforms FWIW. Newsom/Getty is facing stiff legal challenges from Republicans such as Kevin Kiley which I feel are very important to make things a little more democratic. His blog articulates examples of Newsom/Getty's autocratic approach https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/its-all-fallen-apart-for-newsom/ https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/its-all-fallen-apart-for-ne...

justin66 6y ago
> Newsom/Getty > Democrat party You’re coming across kind of crazy with this stuff, maybe unintentionally.
- scruple 6y ago
  I didn't read it that way. Also a lifelong registered Democrat who isn't happy with the way California is being run.
- olivermarks 6y ago
  Newsom was brought up by the Getty family after his parents divorced. He is closely aligned with Getty interests. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/ https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keep... Can you be more specific about why you think what I've said is 'kind of crazy'?
  - greesil 6y ago
    Conspiracy theorist, at a guess. You could just write Neswom and to not have that reaction. I honestly thought you were referring to the lieutenant governor because I didn't remember who that is until I looked it up. Then, I was just confused.
    - olivermarks 6y ago
      Not very clear on what you think the theory to 'conspire' might be here and who the participants are? I have just stated political facts about California politics (where I have lived for 30 years). I have never voted Republican in my life (or tory in the UK where I come from).
greesil 6y ago
I disagree with every bullet point in the in that link. Moreover it seems like the guy is just trying to sell a book. Worst, it doesn't even make the case for autocracy so it doesn't even support your premise. California is also not a one party state. Please look at the results of the last election and see how many Republicans won office, and what the results of the initiatives were.
- olivermarks 6y ago
  Kiley is a central valley Republican who is very much behind the recall effort. I'm sure you don't like any of those bullet points if you are a Newsom supporter. Kiley is in a high stakes legal battle with Newsom challenging his autocratic rule and has won subject to Newsom appeals. 'In California, Democrats held trifecta control of state government from 1999 to 2003 and again from 2011 to present. During all other years, California operated under divided government'. https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_go...
  - greesil 6y ago
    Yes the Democratic party has dominant position now. The recall just seems like guerilla warfare for no good purpose. We have elections. I don't believe Newsom's leadership is so damaging that he needs to be removed from office before his term is up. And I'm not going to believe it from the Republican side, which is a party that hasn't argued in good faith in the last 50 years, IMO
    - olivermarks 6y ago
      See my parent comment: The problem is even if Newsom/Getty does get replaced there are few credible politicians on the horizon who can handle the massive debt load, complex layers of bureaucracy, alarming levels of graft and extreme levels of economic hardship.
- _-david-_ 6y ago
  When people say California is a one party state what they mean is the Democratic Party has a super majority along with the governor. Assuming most democrats agree on something nobody can really stop them.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> California is a one party state, completely dominated by the Democrat party. Only fairly recently had the competitiveness of the California Republican Party collapsed utterly, and entirely because they've slavishly followed the national party away from California interests. > I'm a registered Democrat Who nevertheless uses the deliberately incorrect “Democrat Party” invented for and consistently used in Republican propaganda? > Newsom/Getty Yeah, now if you just throw around “socialist" gratuitously, you’ll complete the image. Looking at your history, your political posts are pretty consistently standard Republican attacks on Democratic positions and the Democratic Party, so I'm not surprised.
- olivermarks 6y ago
  1 Trifectas in California In California, Democrats held trifecta control of state government from 1999 to 2003 and again from 2011 to present. During all other years, California operated under divided government. https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_go... 2 I have never vote Republican party in my life. I am a registered Democrat who has made a lot of effort to reform that party over the last 12 months. 3 Newsom/Getty is the exact opposite of 'Socialist'. you don't get any more 'elite' than dyslexic Gavin, who it is rumored the DNC will pair with Harris for the next presidential election

justin66 6y ago

> Newsom/Getty > Democrat party You’re coming across kind of crazy with this stuff, maybe unintentionally.

scruple 6y ago
I didn't read it that way. Also a lifelong registered Democrat who isn't happy with the way California is being run.
olivermarks 6y ago
Newsom was brought up by the Getty family after his parents divorced. He is closely aligned with Getty interests. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/ https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keep... Can you be more specific about why you think what I've said is 'kind of crazy'?
- greesil 6y ago
  Conspiracy theorist, at a guess. You could just write Neswom and to not have that reaction. I honestly thought you were referring to the lieutenant governor because I didn't remember who that is until I looked it up. Then, I was just confused.
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    Not very clear on what you think the theory to 'conspire' might be here and who the participants are? I have just stated political facts about California politics (where I have lived for 30 years). I have never voted Republican in my life (or tory in the UK where I come from).

greesil 6y ago

I disagree with every bullet point in the in that link. Moreover it seems like the guy is just trying to sell a book. Worst, it doesn't even make the case for autocracy so it doesn't even support your premise. California is also not a one party state. Please look at the results of the last election and see how many Republicans won office, and what the results of the initiatives were.

olivermarks 6y ago
Kiley is a central valley Republican who is very much behind the recall effort. I'm sure you don't like any of those bullet points if you are a Newsom supporter. Kiley is in a high stakes legal battle with Newsom challenging his autocratic rule and has won subject to Newsom appeals. 'In California, Democrats held trifecta control of state government from 1999 to 2003 and again from 2011 to present. During all other years, California operated under divided government'. https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_go...
- greesil 6y ago
  Yes the Democratic party has dominant position now. The recall just seems like guerilla warfare for no good purpose. We have elections. I don't believe Newsom's leadership is so damaging that he needs to be removed from office before his term is up. And I'm not going to believe it from the Republican side, which is a party that hasn't argued in good faith in the last 50 years, IMO
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    See my parent comment: The problem is even if Newsom/Getty does get replaced there are few credible politicians on the horizon who can handle the massive debt load, complex layers of bureaucracy, alarming levels of graft and extreme levels of economic hardship.
_-david-_ 6y ago
When people say California is a one party state what they mean is the Democratic Party has a super majority along with the governor. Assuming most democrats agree on something nobody can really stop them.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> California is a one party state, completely dominated by the Democrat party. Only fairly recently had the competitiveness of the California Republican Party collapsed utterly, and entirely because they've slavishly followed the national party away from California interests. > I'm a registered Democrat Who nevertheless uses the deliberately incorrect “Democrat Party” invented for and consistently used in Republican propaganda? > Newsom/Getty Yeah, now if you just throw around “socialist" gratuitously, you’ll complete the image. Looking at your history, your political posts are pretty consistently standard Republican attacks on Democratic positions and the Democratic Party, so I'm not surprised.

olivermarks 6y ago
1 Trifectas in California In California, Democrats held trifecta control of state government from 1999 to 2003 and again from 2011 to present. During all other years, California operated under divided government. https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_go... 2 I have never vote Republican party in my life. I am a registered Democrat who has made a lot of effort to reform that party over the last 12 months. 3 Newsom/Getty is the exact opposite of 'Socialist'. you don't get any more 'elite' than dyslexic Gavin, who it is rumored the DNC will pair with Harris for the next presidential election