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Yeah it’s scary that “alt-right” is becoming doublespeak for freedom and privacy. Makes you wonder if it’s intentional, controlled opposition even, remove all f

Yeah it’s scary that “alt-right” is becoming doublespeak for freedom and privacy. Makes you wonder if it’s intentional, controlled opposition even, remove all freedom and privacy by vilifying a small group.

lostcolony 6y ago
Other way around. Alt-right is attempting to co-opt "freedom of speech" the same way they've co-opted "patriot".
- ardy42 6y ago
  > Other way around. Alt-right is attempting to co-opt "freedom of speech" the same way they've co-opted "patriot". This is it. Also, the main result of these efforts is mainly to stain the term try to co-opt. It only delivers a brief window of enhanced rhetorical effectiveness before everyone else gets wise, and starts treating those who use the term with a lot more skepticism.
- refurb 6y ago
  I think you missed their point. Alt-right ceases to mean anything other than “bad people we need to stop”.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  It's not right-wingers mocking people with "freeze peach!"
  - lostcolony 6y ago
    What's your point? "Mocking" is literally mimicking to make fun of. So, yes, of course it's not right-wingers mocking themselves with that phrase; it's people mocking the cries right-wingers are making.
    - Chris2048 6y ago
      Yes, mocking their affinity for free speech.
      - lostcolony 6y ago
        No, mocking their claim that it's about free speech.
- luxuryballs 6y ago
  I’m not sure I agree that if someone wants freedom of speech it means they are co-opting it. But it does seem like freedom of speech as a whole is being attacked because some people don’t like what a tiny fraction of people are saying.
ttyprintk 6y ago
Not scared of that at all. I think what you're looking for is a synonym. The "alt-" part of alt-right might be the doublespeak -- paleoconservatism genuinely resists the mainstream attempt to remove white supremacy from conservative platforms. The left's synonym is "deplorables", corresponding to approximately 25% of the American electorate -- not a small group at all. An effort to "remove all freedom and privacy" is hyperbolic, with only a few examples notorious in 20th century history. Are you expecting Parlor to enact a real-name-only policy?
- r00fus 6y ago
  The REAL left disagrees with the word deplorables - that was Hillary’s invention (and a stupid political move). The real left is more concerned about economic and racial equity and fighting against he corporatocracy.
  - esyir 6y ago
    Sure, but the left leaning party that both exercises power and represents the left did use it. The left is responsible for that just as the right gets to own trump.
  - antibuddy 6y ago
    With that attitude you're already part of the alt-right and you didn't notice.
    - LarvaFX 6y ago
      Or the alt-right is part of the left? Honestly, not the same thing.
- bzb6 6y ago
  I think the “alt” part is in response to the current generation of conservatives who don’t really conserve anything because they are neocons. Of course the left is very happy with the defanged right, so they call any actual conservative “alt”

lostcolony 6y ago

Other way around. Alt-right is attempting to co-opt "freedom of speech" the same way they've co-opted "patriot".

ardy42 6y ago
> Other way around. Alt-right is attempting to co-opt "freedom of speech" the same way they've co-opted "patriot". This is it. Also, the main result of these efforts is mainly to stain the term try to co-opt. It only delivers a brief window of enhanced rhetorical effectiveness before everyone else gets wise, and starts treating those who use the term with a lot more skepticism.
refurb 6y ago
I think you missed their point. Alt-right ceases to mean anything other than “bad people we need to stop”.
Chris2048 6y ago
It's not right-wingers mocking people with "freeze peach!"
- lostcolony 6y ago
  What's your point? "Mocking" is literally mimicking to make fun of. So, yes, of course it's not right-wingers mocking themselves with that phrase; it's people mocking the cries right-wingers are making.
  - Chris2048 6y ago
    Yes, mocking their affinity for free speech.
    - lostcolony 6y ago
      No, mocking their claim that it's about free speech.
luxuryballs 6y ago
I’m not sure I agree that if someone wants freedom of speech it means they are co-opting it. But it does seem like freedom of speech as a whole is being attacked because some people don’t like what a tiny fraction of people are saying.

ttyprintk 6y ago

Not scared of that at all. I think what you're looking for is a synonym. The "alt-" part of alt-right might be the doublespeak -- paleoconservatism genuinely resists the mainstream attempt to remove white supremacy from conservative platforms. The left's synonym is "deplorables", corresponding to approximately 25% of the American electorate -- not a small group at all. An effort to "remove all freedom and privacy" is hyperbolic, with only a few examples notorious in 20th century history. Are you expecting Parlor to enact a real-name-only policy?

r00fus 6y ago
The REAL left disagrees with the word deplorables - that was Hillary’s invention (and a stupid political move). The real left is more concerned about economic and racial equity and fighting against he corporatocracy.
- esyir 6y ago
  Sure, but the left leaning party that both exercises power and represents the left did use it. The left is responsible for that just as the right gets to own trump.
- antibuddy 6y ago
  With that attitude you're already part of the alt-right and you didn't notice.
  - LarvaFX 6y ago
    Or the alt-right is part of the left? Honestly, not the same thing.
bzb6 6y ago
I think the “alt” part is in response to the current generation of conservatives who don’t really conserve anything because they are neocons. Of course the left is very happy with the defanged right, so they call any actual conservative “alt”