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In Wellington (I live there) there's a QR code on every shop you're supposed to scan with your phone for contact tracing. Most people don't but they still see t

In Wellington (I live there) there's a QR code on every shop you're supposed to scan with your phone for contact tracing. Most people don't but they still see them - so yes it's still on our minds.

tialaramex 6y ago
Good point. There are supposed to be QR codes here. I only visit one place, to buy food every 7-9 days, they don't have a QR code and employees seemed confused about what one was or why I might be surprised not to see one. I gave up rather than expend any more time trying to have a conversation through masks with confused people about something they can't fix. They did, I noticed when I last visited yesterday, begin explicitly telling people that "One adult shopper" does not mean, "What a fun outing, let's all go to the store as a family and increases everyone's exposure for no reason".
solveit 6y ago
That's insane. Here in Korea you're required to scan the code (or write your contact info on paper) in order to enter the premises.
- tialaramex 6y ago
  Historically New Zealand's government has found that compliance isn't massively improved by empty threats, and police resources aren't available to have an officer at the front door of every shop in the country and enforce such a law, so there isn't one. What does improve compliance is an actual negative event. The change in public reaction to funeral restrictions in lock down when people attending a funeral got sick (and I think one died?) was noticeable. Reported consequences make the policy much harder to ignore. And if there hasn't been enforcement the way human memory works, if on Tuesday a human decides complying with a rule is good, they are now more likely to remember having complied with it on Monday, and retrospectively they will come to believe "obviously" they always obeyed that policy, it was the sensible thing to do. That's cheaper and more effective than policing. But it may cost a few lives to provide the example.
  - solveit 6y ago
    You don't need armed enforcement to get people to scan a QR code, you just need an employee to ask politely.
    - scotty79 6y ago
      You could check how many codes were scanned and compare to how many puchases were made and fine business where this differes a lot from the best ones. This would encourage employees to ask shoppers.
  - llampx 6y ago
    Compliance could be easily checked by the mystery shopper method though. If a store gets fined for not enforcing QR codes through a random check, they're more likely to enforce it and deny non-scanning shoppers entry.
lostlogin 6y ago
> Most people don't but they still see them - so yes it's still on our minds. It was striking to me how few masks and how little QR scanning was going on in Wellington when I went there from Auckland. Auckland has slipped a lot, but it seemed way slacker in Wellington.

In Wellington (I live there) there's a QR code on every shop you're supposed to scan with your phone for contact tracing. Most people don't but they still see them - so yes it's still on our minds.

tialaramex 6y ago

Good point. There are supposed to be QR codes here. I only visit one place, to buy food every 7-9 days, they don't have a QR code and employees seemed confused about what one was or why I might be surprised not to see one. I gave up rather than expend any more time trying to have a conversation through masks with confused people about something they can't fix. They did, I noticed when I last visited yesterday, begin explicitly telling people that "One adult shopper" does not mean, "What a fun outing, let's all go to the store as a family and increases everyone's exposure for no reason".

solveit 6y ago

That's insane. Here in Korea you're required to scan the code (or write your contact info on paper) in order to enter the premises.

tialaramex 6y ago
Historically New Zealand's government has found that compliance isn't massively improved by empty threats, and police resources aren't available to have an officer at the front door of every shop in the country and enforce such a law, so there isn't one. What does improve compliance is an actual negative event. The change in public reaction to funeral restrictions in lock down when people attending a funeral got sick (and I think one died?) was noticeable. Reported consequences make the policy much harder to ignore. And if there hasn't been enforcement the way human memory works, if on Tuesday a human decides complying with a rule is good, they are now more likely to remember having complied with it on Monday, and retrospectively they will come to believe "obviously" they always obeyed that policy, it was the sensible thing to do. That's cheaper and more effective than policing. But it may cost a few lives to provide the example.
- solveit 6y ago
  You don't need armed enforcement to get people to scan a QR code, you just need an employee to ask politely.
  - scotty79 6y ago
    You could check how many codes were scanned and compare to how many puchases were made and fine business where this differes a lot from the best ones. This would encourage employees to ask shoppers.
- llampx 6y ago
  Compliance could be easily checked by the mystery shopper method though. If a store gets fined for not enforcing QR codes through a random check, they're more likely to enforce it and deny non-scanning shoppers entry.

lostlogin 6y ago

> Most people don't but they still see them - so yes it's still on our minds. It was striking to me how few masks and how little QR scanning was going on in Wellington when I went there from Auckland. Auckland has slipped a lot, but it seemed way slacker in Wellington.