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There's a lot to your comment. Could you be more specific about how Neswom is being autocratic? Is he overstepping the powers of his office? Is he not listening

There's a lot to your comment. Could you be more specific about how Neswom is being autocratic? Is he overstepping the powers of his office? Is he not listening to Californians?

Rebelgecko 6y ago
I'm not sure where the line between hypocrite and autocrat is, but it was a bad move to tell people to only congregate with their own households while indoor dining is shut down in most of the state, and then go have what was probably a $600 per person dinner in person and indoors with a lobbyist (the topic of their friendship is a whole 'nother discussion that doesn't really pertain to whether or not he's autocratic, but it does relate to why I'm not happy with him as a governor).
- sharadov 6y ago
  Just FYI, that county did not have indoor dining restrictions when he dined there, so he did not break the law.
  - scruple 6y ago
    Well that clears it up.
  - Rebelgecko 6y ago
    While I don't think there's any legal penalty for violators, at the time of the birthday party the California Department of Public Health prohibited gatherings of 3 or more households: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CDPH-Guidance-for-the-Prevention-of-COVID-19-Transmission-for-Gatherings-10-09.aspx https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CDP... Newsom also relaxed his original "science based" thresholds for shutting down dining, which helped keep Napa County restaurants and wineries (including the one which he still partially owns) open. When asking people not to celebrate birthdays with their friends or to send their kids to school in person, it sets a bad example when you do those things. It also probably doesn't help your job effectiveness when you're forced to do 14 day quarantines multiple times due to nonessential COVID exposure (I think his kid's classmates have gotten it a few times)
olivermarks 6y ago
California is a one party state, completely dominated by the Democrat party. I'm a registered Democrat who was hoping for reforms FWIW. Newsom/Getty is facing stiff legal challenges from Republicans such as Kevin Kiley which I feel are very important to make things a little more democratic. His blog articulates examples of Newsom/Getty's autocratic approach https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/its-all-fallen-apart-for-newsom/ https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/its-all-fallen-apart-for-ne...
- justin66 6y ago
  > Newsom/Getty > Democrat party You’re coming across kind of crazy with this stuff, maybe unintentionally.
  - scruple 6y ago
    I didn't read it that way. Also a lifelong registered Democrat who isn't happy with the way California is being run.
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    Newsom was brought up by the Getty family after his parents divorced. He is closely aligned with Getty interests. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/ https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keep... Can you be more specific about why you think what I've said is 'kind of crazy'?
    - greesil 6y ago
      Conspiracy theorist, at a guess. You could just write Neswom and to not have that reaction. I honestly thought you were referring to the lieutenant governor because I didn't remember who that is until I looked it up. Then, I was just confused.
      - olivermarks 6y ago
        Not very clear on what you think the theory to 'conspire' might be here and who the participants are? I have just stated political facts about California politics (where I have lived for 30 years). I have never voted Republican in my life (or tory in the UK where I come from).

There's a lot to your comment. Could you be more specific about how Neswom is being autocratic? Is he overstepping the powers of his office? Is he not listening to Californians?

Rebelgecko 6y ago

I'm not sure where the line between hypocrite and autocrat is, but it was a bad move to tell people to only congregate with their own households while indoor dining is shut down in most of the state, and then go have what was probably a $600 per person dinner in person and indoors with a lobbyist (the topic of their friendship is a whole 'nother discussion that doesn't really pertain to whether or not he's autocratic, but it does relate to why I'm not happy with him as a governor).

sharadov 6y ago
Just FYI, that county did not have indoor dining restrictions when he dined there, so he did not break the law.
- scruple 6y ago
  Well that clears it up.
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  While I don't think there's any legal penalty for violators, at the time of the birthday party the California Department of Public Health prohibited gatherings of 3 or more households: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CDPH-Guidance-for-the-Prevention-of-COVID-19-Transmission-for-Gatherings-10-09.aspx https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CDP... Newsom also relaxed his original "science based" thresholds for shutting down dining, which helped keep Napa County restaurants and wineries (including the one which he still partially owns) open. When asking people not to celebrate birthdays with their friends or to send their kids to school in person, it sets a bad example when you do those things. It also probably doesn't help your job effectiveness when you're forced to do 14 day quarantines multiple times due to nonessential COVID exposure (I think his kid's classmates have gotten it a few times)

olivermarks 6y ago

California is a one party state, completely dominated by the Democrat party. I'm a registered Democrat who was hoping for reforms FWIW. Newsom/Getty is facing stiff legal challenges from Republicans such as Kevin Kiley which I feel are very important to make things a little more democratic. His blog articulates examples of Newsom/Getty's autocratic approach https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/its-all-fallen-apart-for-newsom/ https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/its-all-fallen-apart-for-ne...

justin66 6y ago
> Newsom/Getty > Democrat party You’re coming across kind of crazy with this stuff, maybe unintentionally.
- scruple 6y ago
  I didn't read it that way. Also a lifelong registered Democrat who isn't happy with the way California is being run.
- olivermarks 6y ago
  Newsom was brought up by the Getty family after his parents divorced. He is closely aligned with Getty interests. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/ https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keep... Can you be more specific about why you think what I've said is 'kind of crazy'?
  - greesil 6y ago
    Conspiracy theorist, at a guess. You could just write Neswom and to not have that reaction. I honestly thought you were referring to the lieutenant governor because I didn't remember who that is until I looked it up. Then, I was just confused.
    - olivermarks 6y ago
      Not very clear on what you think the theory to 'conspire' might be here and who the participants are? I have just stated political facts about California politics (where I have lived for 30 years). I have never voted Republican in my life (or tory in the UK where I come from).