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Does the money go to the employees? Since it was their privacy that was violated?
by TulliusCicero 6y ago
Does the money go to the employees? Since it was their privacy that was violated?
- epanchin 6y agoIf that happened, authorities would rapidly lose the will to investigate breaches.
- markdown 6y agoWait, do the police and public prosecutor in your country personally receive the money from fines resulting from their prosecution of crimes like this one?
- Triv888 6y agoThey do, when it comes to civil forfeiture/seizure [1]... not sure about lawsuits. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Civil_forfeiture_in_the_U...
- __m 6y agoArticle is about a german company.
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- corty 6y agoIn Germany, fines go to the general state or federal budget, not the police budget. The only thing where there is a really obvious wrong incentive are parking violations, those go to the community, the community prosecutes and sets the local parking regs. So that, along with speeding tickets inside city limits (in parts), is a money-printing business for them.
- chopin 6y agoAt least smaller Communities are very much restricted what they can do with regards to speeding. That's the reason why there are posts everywhere which show your actual speed instead of giving a ticket.
- epanchin 6y agoI’m in the UK. The fines go to the Treasury, so the central purse. If fines were distributed to the public and the ICO collected zero income, I believe the political will do finance it would disappear. I was not suggesting officers themselves would change priorities based on individual pay outs, sorry for the confusion.
- oaiey 6y agoI do not think so. Not a law expert, but beyond emotional damage (which is not a thing in Germany) there is nothing the employee need to be compensated for. It is a crime and the state fines the company for breaching the law.
- the_cramer 6y agoMoney goes to the state, which is outright alien to me. The fact that the company pays a fine totally makes sense to me. But the country getting the money and the employee just getting their "right" is a major flaw in this system from my point of view. You need to compensate these people... at least a little bit.
- dirkt 6y agoSee other comment: This court decision now will help a lot if the employees now file for civil damages. But that's a separate case. And given that basically all bigger German companies have a works council [1], this is really really likely to happen. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council
- corty 6y agoFines going to the state in Germany is actually a problem imho. The damages you can expect for this are laughable, 40k is a typical payment to the family for wrongful death (cost of burial plus anguish). For video surveilance at the workplace you can expect a few hundred bucks at most, if the court even takes the case and doesn't dismiss it outright as minor. If there were punitive damages awarded to the victims, a lot more illegal behaviour would be properly prosecuted. Officials like the state data protection officer are intentionally understaffed, so they only prosecute the most egregious problems. Private citizens and their attorneys could take up the slack if it were financially viable.
- rorykoehler 6y ago>Officials like the state data protection officer are intentionally understaffed, so they only prosecute the most egregious problems. Private citizens and their attorneys could take up the slack if it were financially viable. I can assure that this is not an issue for Germany. If anything they are overstaffed based on the false and egregious bullshit I have had to pay lawyers to get overturned.
- blackbrokkoli 6y ago
- mrleiter 6y agoNo, this fine would go to the state. But if the fine holds up in the courts, employees stand a good chance to bring civil damages, in a separate claim.