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comes up on duckduckgo.com DEAD on google.com

by GoldenMonkey 6y ago

azangru 6y ago
DuckDuckGo uses Bing for search; which means the link is also alive on bing.com
- SteveNuts 6y ago
  How does that work? Does DDG have deals with Bing to allow them to do that?
  - monocasa 6y ago
    Yes, they paid Microsoft to be able to access Bing's dataset.
    - 458aperta 6y ago
      I'm okay with this. Before, I was definitely using DDG less. It's good to see Microsoft still keeping up the good fight. "Dont be evil" seems like a distant alternative universe...
      - doublerabbit 6y ago
        When Apple buys DDG later this year, it'll be back to the drawing board.
        458aperta 6y ago
        source?
  - MrMember 6y ago
    Yes, other search engines can pay for access to Bing's results. DDG isn't just straight Bing results, though, it compiles results from a number of different sources (including their own), with Bing being the primary source.
  - speedgoose 6y ago
    Yes they do. The Bing API is actually open to anyone with a bank card but DDG has a specific deal to allow them to filter / sort results, to use ads not only from the Microsoft ads platform, and to skip the redirect link that records what the user click on. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis
- peanutz454 6y ago
  For an esoteric term that I tried, the results are about same for the top half of the page, but then were quite different for bottom half. Which leads me to believe they use Bing but do not completely rely on it (at least not to order the results).
- blisterpeanuts 6y ago
  I thought DDG had its own search engine and used Bing for image search and a few other things.
  - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
    DDG is Bing and Yandex.
    - blisterpeanuts 6y ago
      According to Business Insider[1]: "The results are aggregated from hundreds of sources, including DuckDuckGo's own web crawler, along with Bing, Yahoo, Yandex, specialty services like Wolfram Alpha, and others." DDG's help website[2]: "DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from multiple partners, though most commonly from Bing (and none from Google)." Clearly, they get their search results from a wide variety of sources including their own crawler. But it sounds like they do rely heavily on Bing. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-duckduckgo?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-duckduckgo?op=1 2. https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1 https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1
rasengan 6y ago
Comes up fine on https://private.sh https://private.sh too!
- atlgator 6y ago
  ooh that's a new one thanks
  - windexh8er 6y ago
    Look closer... "Private.sh is a joint venture between Private Internet Access and GigaBlast." PIA is generally regarded as not to be trusted since the sell off / sell out.
    - rasengan 6y ago
      Private.sh is run by IFC and Gigablast. That being said, the system is designed so as to not require trust in the front end. The JavaScript code is easy to read and ensures that queries are encrypted at the front end before passing thru a proxy to have its IP scrubbed. The engine then performs the query, encrypts the results and sends it back thru the proxy to the front end which decrypts and displays the results.

comes up on duckduckgo.com DEAD on google.com

azangru 6y ago

DuckDuckGo uses Bing for search; which means the link is also alive on bing.com

SteveNuts 6y ago
How does that work? Does DDG have deals with Bing to allow them to do that?
- monocasa 6y ago
  Yes, they paid Microsoft to be able to access Bing's dataset.
  - 458aperta 6y ago
    I'm okay with this. Before, I was definitely using DDG less. It's good to see Microsoft still keeping up the good fight. "Dont be evil" seems like a distant alternative universe...
    - doublerabbit 6y ago
      When Apple buys DDG later this year, it'll be back to the drawing board.
      - 458aperta 6y ago
        source?
- MrMember 6y ago
  Yes, other search engines can pay for access to Bing's results. DDG isn't just straight Bing results, though, it compiles results from a number of different sources (including their own), with Bing being the primary source.
- speedgoose 6y ago
  Yes they do. The Bing API is actually open to anyone with a bank card but DDG has a specific deal to allow them to filter / sort results, to use ads not only from the Microsoft ads platform, and to skip the redirect link that records what the user click on. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis
peanutz454 6y ago
For an esoteric term that I tried, the results are about same for the top half of the page, but then were quite different for bottom half. Which leads me to believe they use Bing but do not completely rely on it (at least not to order the results).
blisterpeanuts 6y ago
I thought DDG had its own search engine and used Bing for image search and a few other things.
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  DDG is Bing and Yandex.
  - blisterpeanuts 6y ago
    According to Business Insider[1]: "The results are aggregated from hundreds of sources, including DuckDuckGo's own web crawler, along with Bing, Yahoo, Yandex, specialty services like Wolfram Alpha, and others." DDG's help website[2]: "DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from multiple partners, though most commonly from Bing (and none from Google)." Clearly, they get their search results from a wide variety of sources including their own crawler. But it sounds like they do rely heavily on Bing. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-duckduckgo?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-duckduckgo?op=1 2. https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1 https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1

rasengan 6y ago

Comes up fine on https://private.sh https://private.sh too!

atlgator 6y ago
ooh that's a new one thanks
- windexh8er 6y ago
  Look closer... "Private.sh is a joint venture between Private Internet Access and GigaBlast." PIA is generally regarded as not to be trusted since the sell off / sell out.
  - rasengan 6y ago
    Private.sh is run by IFC and Gigablast. That being said, the system is designed so as to not require trust in the front end. The JavaScript code is easy to read and ensures that queries are encrypted at the front end before passing thru a proxy to have its IP scrubbed. The engine then performs the query, encrypts the results and sends it back thru the proxy to the front end which decrypts and displays the results.