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I wonder who they're hosting with now? Interesting that it wasn't reported. I'd assume the hosting company would want to shout it out that they "support free sp

I wonder who they're hosting with now? Interesting that it wasn't reported. I'd assume the hosting company would want to shout it out that they "support free speech" or something like that.

roywiggins 6y ago
Possibly the same outfit that hosts Gab: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ad7dp/parler-finds-refuge-with-the-far-rights-favorite-webhost https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ad7dp/parler-finds-refuge-w...
- crocodiletears 6y ago
  I thought Gab was hosted on its own infrastructure, but used epik as its registrar. I think Torba was gloating about it as one point.
  - wut42 6y ago
    Yes, Epik is just the registrar for Gab. They use Cloudflare as a DDoS/frontend, and have their own ASN, which is supposedly where everything is really hosted (https://bgp.he.net/AS42651 https://bgp.he.net/AS42651).
tzs 6y ago
Epik. But I wouldn't necessarily count on them to stay there. Epik hosts thedonald.win, and recently told that site it needs to get its content under control or it will be kicked off [1], so there are limits to what Epik is willing to host. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25808529 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25808529
- david_shaw 6y ago
  > Epik. It looks like Parler transferred their domain name to Epik (as a registrar), but are not currently using them for hosting. As recently as a few days ago, Epik explicitly stated that they have no plans to host Parler (https://mynorthwest.com/2461882/sammamish-epik-parler/ https://mynorthwest.com/2461882/sammamish-epik-parler/). That said, since the site is behind "ddos-guard.net," it's difficult to tell who their actual host is.
  - tzs 6y ago
    I saw a couple articles or so that said Epik was hosting it, but it is possible that those authors just saw that Epik was the registrar and confused that with being the host.
  - BryantD 6y ago
    Little bit of history on DDoS-Guard: - https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/ddos-guard/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/ddos-guard/ (VanwaTech relationship) - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/15/8kun-8chan-capitol-breach-violence-isp https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/15/8kun-8cha... (End of VanwaTech relationship) Quick check... yeah, doesn't look like 8kun is using DDoS-Guard any more.
- ketamine__ 6y ago
  What company provides connectivity to Epik?
- downandout 6y ago
  Based on what I saw on Parler during an admittedly limited review of it, I don’t think they have to worry very much, if actual content is the issue that got them killed in the first place. I didn’t see much of the “scary” content that some people claim was on there. There were more links to positive news about Trump and conservatives in general than you would find on a site like Twitter, but I would certainly hope that isn’t the kind of thing that will get you destroyed overnight by the world’s largest companies, even in the current anti-conservative environment. I have seen far worse things on Reddit, from both sides of the aisle - and last time I checked, Reddit was still online. It appears to me that these companies colluded to kill Parler not because of widespread horrible content (because it simply wasn’t there), but rather because they wanted to strangle any chance of Trump being able to communicate on any form of social media until after Biden takes office. As an added “bonus,” they probably also prevented millions of people from jumping ship from Twitter to Parler, because after this week far fewer people will even care about the situation.
  - soared 6y ago
    FWIW you can get a feel for the content right now - I can only assume Parker’s content is on par with thedonald.win, which is still up. Right now there is few literal calls to violence, but racism, conspiracy theories, and extremist views are the majority of the content. Prior to the deplatforming that content likely was.. more violent.
    - downandout 6y ago
      I can only assume Parker’s content is on par with thedonald.win I have never frequented either of them, and don't really have any desire to. I basically checked out Parler because CNN told me not to. But relative to Twitter and Reddit, it seemed pretty tame to me.
      - nicoffeine 6y ago
        According to one analysis[1], it's anything but tame. The word cloud[2] kind of says it all. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/politics/a-very-disturbing-look-deep-insider-the-parler-app https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/politics/a-very-disturbin... [2] https://imageproxy.themaven.net/https%3A%2F%2Fimages.saymedia-content.com%2F.image%2FMTc4MTk5NjA4NTcxMjA5MzI1%2Fparler-word-cloud.png?w=1240&q=20&h=1159&auto=enhanced&fit=crop&crop=focalpoint&fp-x=0.5&fp-y=0.5&fp-z=1&fp-debug=false https://imageproxy.themaven.net/https%3A%2F%2Fimages.saymedi...
- blubber50 6y ago
  They have a problem with thedonald but host thedailystormer and bitchute? lol
dsukhin 6y ago
A DNS record lookup points to ddos-guard.net which provides both hosting and DDOS protection (like cloudflare) and is based in the Netherlands. I don't think they care much about Parler or free speech for that matter. They might not care much beyond the likely big hosting bill they are being paid. Free market at work, nothing to see here.
- wavefunction 6y ago
  ARIN Reverse Whois ties the IP block to LACNIC, out of ... *edit not Belize, when I checked Montevideo Uruguay
- tedd4u 6y ago
  Looks like Russia to me (Rostov-on-Don). Where are you seeing the Netherlands? 344019, г. Ростов-на-Дону, ул. Максима Горького, д. 276, этаж 5, офис 11. from https://ddos-guard.net/ru/info/contacts https://ddos-guard.net/ru/info/contacts
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webmonkeyuk 6y ago
It looks like the website is proxied via a DDoS protection company called DDOS-GUARD https://gwhois.org/190.115.31.151 https://gwhois.org/190.115.31.151 It looks like the website is being served from an Ubuntu server running nginx/1.18.0 https://parler.com/404 https://parler.com/404
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shakna 6y ago
The nameservers point to Epik, so at least the DNS is run by them. The actual host is behind ddos-guard, so they may/may not be hosting the data with them or another provider. As Epik seems to focus on shared hosting, and LAMP stack style applications and parler was using a proprietary DB in the last offering, they might reasonably have the actual hosting somewhere else. Edit: Typo
- freedomben 6y ago
  A proprietary DB? Do you know which one? I saw a tweet that I thought said they were using Postgres. Just curious.
  - shakna 6y ago
    Scylla Enterprise [0] [1], which is a Cassandra-compatible NoSQL database, though I think that they were probably using the DynamoDB API shim to talk to it. The non-enterprise version is open source, but fewer features. [0] https://www.scylladb.com/product/scylla-enterprise/ https://www.scylladb.com/product/scylla-enterprise/ [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/1/14/it-could-be-never-parler-ceo-says-social-app-may-not-return https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/1/14/it-could-be-neve...
ABeeSea 6y ago
A company owned by two Russian “businessmen.”
- eplanit 6y ago
  Well, if hosting Snowden makes the Russkis righteous, then hosting Parler must be fine, too. It seems that Americans who speak against narratives find friends there? Ironic, to say the very least.
  - wavefunction 6y ago
    If Snowden is to be believed --and I personally think he is-- he was transiting through Russia to South America after fleeing Hong Kong and we all remember the forced landing of the official plane of the President of Bolivia. That seems very different than the coziness of certain Americans and what appear to be members of the Putin regime.
    - mandragon 6y ago
      Just pointing out that snowden's passport was cancelled on 20130622 and that he flew out of hk on 20130623. It's not an unreasonable speculation that he planned to wind up in Russia, putting on a convincing show in the process.
      - dane-pgp 6y ago
        A better hypothesis would be that Russia was one of the only countries that would accept an arrival with a cancelled passport (and could provide a reasonable degree of protection against rendition by US agents). I don't believe it is possible to fly from HK to South America without passing through the US or New Zealand, whereas Snowden probably could have travelled from Russia to Cuba if Putin didn't find it politically advantageous to keep him as a trophy.
        mandragon 6y ago
        Yes, your hypothesis is a better fit, and makes fewer assumptions. Perhaps the arrangements with Russia were made hurriedly while Snowden was hiding in HK, days prior to departing, as some reports suggest. However, Snowden had been stealing classified intel premeditatively for a long period of time, and had contact with actors who had the knowledge and contacts to plan such a ruse in advance. Given his high intelligence and exacting personality, haphazardly leaking to the press from HK prior to obtaining asylum seems to be out of character. I do believe strongly that Snowden would have told elaborate, pre-fabricated lies, if it were to his benefit.
vincentmarle 6y ago
I’m also very curious to know which hosting company is willing to aid and abet domestic terrorism
pul 6y ago
They're hosted by DDOS-GUARD CORP in Belize: https://www.nslookup.io/dns-records/parler.com https://www.nslookup.io/dns-records/parler.com

I wonder who they're hosting with now? Interesting that it wasn't reported. I'd assume the hosting company would want to shout it out that they "support free speech" or something like that.

roywiggins 6y ago

Possibly the same outfit that hosts Gab: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ad7dp/parler-finds-refuge-with-the-far-rights-favorite-webhost https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ad7dp/parler-finds-refuge-w...

crocodiletears 6y ago
I thought Gab was hosted on its own infrastructure, but used epik as its registrar. I think Torba was gloating about it as one point.
- wut42 6y ago
  Yes, Epik is just the registrar for Gab. They use Cloudflare as a DDoS/frontend, and have their own ASN, which is supposedly where everything is really hosted (https://bgp.he.net/AS42651 https://bgp.he.net/AS42651).

tzs 6y ago

Epik. But I wouldn't necessarily count on them to stay there. Epik hosts thedonald.win, and recently told that site it needs to get its content under control or it will be kicked off [1], so there are limits to what Epik is willing to host. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25808529 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25808529

david_shaw 6y ago
> Epik. It looks like Parler transferred their domain name to Epik (as a registrar), but are not currently using them for hosting. As recently as a few days ago, Epik explicitly stated that they have no plans to host Parler (https://mynorthwest.com/2461882/sammamish-epik-parler/ https://mynorthwest.com/2461882/sammamish-epik-parler/). That said, since the site is behind "ddos-guard.net," it's difficult to tell who their actual host is.
- tzs 6y ago
  I saw a couple articles or so that said Epik was hosting it, but it is possible that those authors just saw that Epik was the registrar and confused that with being the host.
- BryantD 6y ago
  Little bit of history on DDoS-Guard: - https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/ddos-guard/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/ddos-guard/ (VanwaTech relationship) - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/15/8kun-8chan-capitol-breach-violence-isp https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/15/8kun-8cha... (End of VanwaTech relationship) Quick check... yeah, doesn't look like 8kun is using DDoS-Guard any more.
ketamine__ 6y ago
What company provides connectivity to Epik?
downandout 6y ago
Based on what I saw on Parler during an admittedly limited review of it, I don’t think they have to worry very much, if actual content is the issue that got them killed in the first place. I didn’t see much of the “scary” content that some people claim was on there. There were more links to positive news about Trump and conservatives in general than you would find on a site like Twitter, but I would certainly hope that isn’t the kind of thing that will get you destroyed overnight by the world’s largest companies, even in the current anti-conservative environment. I have seen far worse things on Reddit, from both sides of the aisle - and last time I checked, Reddit was still online. It appears to me that these companies colluded to kill Parler not because of widespread horrible content (because it simply wasn’t there), but rather because they wanted to strangle any chance of Trump being able to communicate on any form of social media until after Biden takes office. As an added “bonus,” they probably also prevented millions of people from jumping ship from Twitter to Parler, because after this week far fewer people will even care about the situation.
- soared 6y ago
  FWIW you can get a feel for the content right now - I can only assume Parker’s content is on par with thedonald.win, which is still up. Right now there is few literal calls to violence, but racism, conspiracy theories, and extremist views are the majority of the content. Prior to the deplatforming that content likely was.. more violent.
  - downandout 6y ago
    I can only assume Parker’s content is on par with thedonald.win I have never frequented either of them, and don't really have any desire to. I basically checked out Parler because CNN told me not to. But relative to Twitter and Reddit, it seemed pretty tame to me.
    - nicoffeine 6y ago
      According to one analysis[1], it's anything but tame. The word cloud[2] kind of says it all. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/politics/a-very-disturbing-look-deep-insider-the-parler-app https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/politics/a-very-disturbin... [2] https://imageproxy.themaven.net/https%3A%2F%2Fimages.saymedia-content.com%2F.image%2FMTc4MTk5NjA4NTcxMjA5MzI1%2Fparler-word-cloud.png?w=1240&q=20&h=1159&auto=enhanced&fit=crop&crop=focalpoint&fp-x=0.5&fp-y=0.5&fp-z=1&fp-debug=false https://imageproxy.themaven.net/https%3A%2F%2Fimages.saymedi...
blubber50 6y ago
They have a problem with thedonald but host thedailystormer and bitchute? lol

dsukhin 6y ago

A DNS record lookup points to ddos-guard.net which provides both hosting and DDOS protection (like cloudflare) and is based in the Netherlands. I don't think they care much about Parler or free speech for that matter. They might not care much beyond the likely big hosting bill they are being paid. Free market at work, nothing to see here.

wavefunction 6y ago
ARIN Reverse Whois ties the IP block to LACNIC, out of ... *edit not Belize, when I checked Montevideo Uruguay
tedd4u 6y ago
Looks like Russia to me (Rostov-on-Don). Where are you seeing the Netherlands? 344019, г. Ростов-на-Дону, ул. Максима Горького, д. 276, этаж 5, офис 11. from https://ddos-guard.net/ru/info/contacts https://ddos-guard.net/ru/info/contacts

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webmonkeyuk 6y ago

It looks like the website is proxied via a DDoS protection company called DDOS-GUARD https://gwhois.org/190.115.31.151 https://gwhois.org/190.115.31.151 It looks like the website is being served from an Ubuntu server running nginx/1.18.0 https://parler.com/404 https://parler.com/404

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shakna 6y ago

The nameservers point to Epik, so at least the DNS is run by them. The actual host is behind ddos-guard, so they may/may not be hosting the data with them or another provider. As Epik seems to focus on shared hosting, and LAMP stack style applications and parler was using a proprietary DB in the last offering, they might reasonably have the actual hosting somewhere else. Edit: Typo

freedomben 6y ago
A proprietary DB? Do you know which one? I saw a tweet that I thought said they were using Postgres. Just curious.
- shakna 6y ago
  Scylla Enterprise [0] [1], which is a Cassandra-compatible NoSQL database, though I think that they were probably using the DynamoDB API shim to talk to it. The non-enterprise version is open source, but fewer features. [0] https://www.scylladb.com/product/scylla-enterprise/ https://www.scylladb.com/product/scylla-enterprise/ [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/1/14/it-could-be-never-parler-ceo-says-social-app-may-not-return https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/1/14/it-could-be-neve...

ABeeSea 6y ago

A company owned by two Russian “businessmen.”

eplanit 6y ago
Well, if hosting Snowden makes the Russkis righteous, then hosting Parler must be fine, too. It seems that Americans who speak against narratives find friends there? Ironic, to say the very least.
- wavefunction 6y ago
  If Snowden is to be believed --and I personally think he is-- he was transiting through Russia to South America after fleeing Hong Kong and we all remember the forced landing of the official plane of the President of Bolivia. That seems very different than the coziness of certain Americans and what appear to be members of the Putin regime.
  - mandragon 6y ago
    Just pointing out that snowden's passport was cancelled on 20130622 and that he flew out of hk on 20130623. It's not an unreasonable speculation that he planned to wind up in Russia, putting on a convincing show in the process.
    - dane-pgp 6y ago
      A better hypothesis would be that Russia was one of the only countries that would accept an arrival with a cancelled passport (and could provide a reasonable degree of protection against rendition by US agents). I don't believe it is possible to fly from HK to South America without passing through the US or New Zealand, whereas Snowden probably could have travelled from Russia to Cuba if Putin didn't find it politically advantageous to keep him as a trophy.
      - mandragon 6y ago
        Yes, your hypothesis is a better fit, and makes fewer assumptions. Perhaps the arrangements with Russia were made hurriedly while Snowden was hiding in HK, days prior to departing, as some reports suggest. However, Snowden had been stealing classified intel premeditatively for a long period of time, and had contact with actors who had the knowledge and contacts to plan such a ruse in advance. Given his high intelligence and exacting personality, haphazardly leaking to the press from HK prior to obtaining asylum seems to be out of character. I do believe strongly that Snowden would have told elaborate, pre-fabricated lies, if it were to his benefit.

vincentmarle 6y ago

I’m also very curious to know which hosting company is willing to aid and abet domestic terrorism

pul 6y ago

They're hosted by DDOS-GUARD CORP in Belize: https://www.nslookup.io/dns-records/parler.com https://www.nslookup.io/dns-records/parler.com