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Exactly! Without the math to back it up, the additional rationalizing is not a foundational study. It cannot be built upon, and that is why it isn't a great ide

Exactly! Without the math to back it up, the additional rationalizing is not a foundational study. It cannot be built upon, and that is why it isn't a great idea.

messe 6y ago
I find this to be a very narrow minded perspective. Without the philosophy to back it up how can you justify your belief in the mathematics?
- behnamoh 6y ago
  Do I really need to know the history of science and philosophy in order to come up with Lorentz Transformation? No, I need solid understanding of physics and the mathematical models that are already available in that framework, and then build upon those. Sure, these articles could be fun to read, but one does not really expect to have more practical knowledge after reading them. How would you use Hume’s arguments to help you learn the theory of relativity better? And it’s not just in physics. I can make the same claim in almost any field of science that values results over cheap talk. In game theory for example, does philosophy help you come up with something as magnificent as Nash Equilibrium? No, but Kakutani’s theorem does. Learn the math and practical knowledge, the rest is a waste of time.
  - sinsterizme 6y ago
    It depends on your goals and where your interests align. The domain of philosophy is fundamental and all encompassing, and you have philosophical opinions that you can choose to examine or not. From a career perspective you are almost certainly right that time is better spent extending your skills in the empirical domain but others have a different temperament and have use for philosophy. And for some of those people, their contributions are long lasting and impactful. See this link titled “The Purpose of Philosophy”: http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s10113.pdf http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s10113.pdf
  - paganel 6y ago
    Saying that physics has a “mathematical framework” is a philosophical stance.
  - andrepd 6y ago
    Well, the very idea of the scientific method is a philosophical innovation. I think you're not even aware of the history of how we got here.
tobmlt 6y ago
Einstein would apparently disagree with you.

Exactly! Without the math to back it up, the additional rationalizing is not a foundational study. It cannot be built upon, and that is why it isn't a great idea.

messe 6y ago

I find this to be a very narrow minded perspective. Without the philosophy to back it up how can you justify your belief in the mathematics?

behnamoh 6y ago
Do I really need to know the history of science and philosophy in order to come up with Lorentz Transformation? No, I need solid understanding of physics and the mathematical models that are already available in that framework, and then build upon those. Sure, these articles could be fun to read, but one does not really expect to have more practical knowledge after reading them. How would you use Hume’s arguments to help you learn the theory of relativity better? And it’s not just in physics. I can make the same claim in almost any field of science that values results over cheap talk. In game theory for example, does philosophy help you come up with something as magnificent as Nash Equilibrium? No, but Kakutani’s theorem does. Learn the math and practical knowledge, the rest is a waste of time.
- sinsterizme 6y ago
  It depends on your goals and where your interests align. The domain of philosophy is fundamental and all encompassing, and you have philosophical opinions that you can choose to examine or not. From a career perspective you are almost certainly right that time is better spent extending your skills in the empirical domain but others have a different temperament and have use for philosophy. And for some of those people, their contributions are long lasting and impactful. See this link titled “The Purpose of Philosophy”: http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s10113.pdf http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s10113.pdf
- paganel 6y ago
  Saying that physics has a “mathematical framework” is a philosophical stance.
- andrepd 6y ago
  Well, the very idea of the scientific method is a philosophical innovation. I think you're not even aware of the history of how we got here.

tobmlt 6y ago

Einstein would apparently disagree with you.