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How about blacklisting people from monetary/financial services such as banks and credit card co's based on their political views? That goes even further. https

by cronix 6y ago

How about blacklisting people from monetary/financial services such as banks and credit card co's based on their political views? That goes even further. https://spectator.us/topic/financial-blacklisting-sargon-akkad/ https://spectator.us/topic/financial-blacklisting-sargon-akk... https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/02/27/financial-blacklisting-chase-bank-withdraws-service-from-independent-and-conservative-figures/ https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/02/27/financial-blacklis...

walrus01 6y ago
As shown by the well known bastion of unbiased, neutral, apolitical news... Breitbart. Quite honestly this looks like a toxic, bigoted individual. I'm absolutely unsurprised that some organizations choose not to do business with him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin
- cronix 6y ago
  So, you don't like him, but that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech which is the point I'm making. This sort of behavior is toxic to society at large, and so are the implications. I'm glad your political views are of the correct sort....today. Oh, wikipedia.
  - walrus01 6y ago
    Think of the financial institution that chooses not to do business with him as a bakery, and sargon is a gay wedding cake. Banned from society? I was unaware that you're "banned from society" because private business Patreon doesn't want a relationship with you.
    - ZoomerCretin 6y ago
      The modern examples of a gay couple being refused service is a poor example. They can’t just go to the other financial institutions, because all of them have black-listed them. An Internet business cannot feasibly operate on cash alone. Just like any farmer in the 1800s can just go lay his own railroad tracks across the continent, every website that hosts wrongthink is equally capable of creating their own banks, payment processors, data centers, and internet connections. These businesses aren’t restaurants. They’re critical, privatized infrastructure.
      - CyberDildonics 6y ago
        What banks was he black listed from?
        walrus01 6y ago
        None, this person is apparently complaining he was blacklisted from Patreon.
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    If you become a public figure based on a toxicity and bigotry businesses may not want to be associated with you. Patreon is not a bank. Patreon didn't even exist a few years ago. They are a middle man to collect money using other middle men. They don't even have a monopoly on this. This person is also not a US citizen.
  - TomSwirly 6y ago
    > that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech Your comment is bizarre and nonsensical. No one has been "banned from society" based on "legal speech", a meaningless phrase. A lot of people have been banned from using specific internet services because they used them to make threats of violence, or to tell dangerous lies about COVID. This isn't "banning them from society". Get a grip! Also, we are talking two classes of people here: * people who work against humanity to spread COVID-19 based on a pack of obvious lies * people who wish to violently overthrow the elected US government based on a pack of obvious lies and frankly, these people can get fucked. They are destroying the country and the planet, and they deserve every single penalty the law can give them. If private corporations, which Republicans claim to love, use their perfectly legal power to stop doing business with horrible psychopaths, then good for them. One side went crazy, and now we have to choose sides. Are you on the side of the delusional hateful lawbreaking violent psychopaths, or with the majority? (My theory - you are not with the majority.)
pjc50 6y ago
People were banned from financial services for growing weed and being sex workers, largely at the request of the right. And now the right is complaining this is coming back to them.
- temp8964 6y ago
  The equivalent would be advocating for "growing weed and being sex workers".
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    No, the equivalent would be anyone else banned from patreon for violating terms of service. Patreon is not a bank or a 'financial institution'.
- alacombe 6y ago
  > ..., largely at the request of the right Operation Choke-Point was actually an Obama era policy.

by cronix 6y ago

walrus01 6y ago

As shown by the well known bastion of unbiased, neutral, apolitical news... Breitbart. Quite honestly this looks like a toxic, bigoted individual. I'm absolutely unsurprised that some organizations choose not to do business with him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin

cronix 6y ago
So, you don't like him, but that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech which is the point I'm making. This sort of behavior is toxic to society at large, and so are the implications. I'm glad your political views are of the correct sort....today. Oh, wikipedia.
- walrus01 6y ago
  Think of the financial institution that chooses not to do business with him as a bakery, and sargon is a gay wedding cake. Banned from society? I was unaware that you're "banned from society" because private business Patreon doesn't want a relationship with you.
  - ZoomerCretin 6y ago
    The modern examples of a gay couple being refused service is a poor example. They can’t just go to the other financial institutions, because all of them have black-listed them. An Internet business cannot feasibly operate on cash alone. Just like any farmer in the 1800s can just go lay his own railroad tracks across the continent, every website that hosts wrongthink is equally capable of creating their own banks, payment processors, data centers, and internet connections. These businesses aren’t restaurants. They’re critical, privatized infrastructure.
    - CyberDildonics 6y ago
      What banks was he black listed from?
      - walrus01 6y ago
        None, this person is apparently complaining he was blacklisted from Patreon.
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  If you become a public figure based on a toxicity and bigotry businesses may not want to be associated with you. Patreon is not a bank. Patreon didn't even exist a few years ago. They are a middle man to collect money using other middle men. They don't even have a monopoly on this. This person is also not a US citizen.
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  > that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech Your comment is bizarre and nonsensical. No one has been "banned from society" based on "legal speech", a meaningless phrase. A lot of people have been banned from using specific internet services because they used them to make threats of violence, or to tell dangerous lies about COVID. This isn't "banning them from society". Get a grip! Also, we are talking two classes of people here: * people who work against humanity to spread COVID-19 based on a pack of obvious lies * people who wish to violently overthrow the elected US government based on a pack of obvious lies and frankly, these people can get fucked. They are destroying the country and the planet, and they deserve every single penalty the law can give them. If private corporations, which Republicans claim to love, use their perfectly legal power to stop doing business with horrible psychopaths, then good for them. One side went crazy, and now we have to choose sides. Are you on the side of the delusional hateful lawbreaking violent psychopaths, or with the majority? (My theory - you are not with the majority.)

pjc50 6y ago

People were banned from financial services for growing weed and being sex workers, largely at the request of the right. And now the right is complaining this is coming back to them.

temp8964 6y ago
The equivalent would be advocating for "growing weed and being sex workers".
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  No, the equivalent would be anyone else banned from patreon for violating terms of service. Patreon is not a bank or a 'financial institution'.
alacombe 6y ago
> ..., largely at the request of the right Operation Choke-Point was actually an Obama era policy.