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I've just seen the screenshots from https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees-protest-jewish-employee-firing-warn-nazi https://www.theverge.c

I've just seen the screenshots from https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees-protest-jewish-employee-firing-warn-nazi https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees... You just shouldn't be speaking like that in a company Slack channel. Politics should really not be discussed at work, and especially not in a public Slack channel. It's not the right place for it. It makes me not want to work there if they are discussing politics all day in a public Slack channel

blueplanet200 6y ago
I don’t think pointing out nazis at the capitol is politics. Healthcare policy is politics, the election is politics. Pointing out nazis at an armed insurrection? No.
- nailer 6y ago
  Can you show us evidence of the nazis? I can't find anything beyond somewhat obscure links between eg "Don't tread on me", "Release the kraken", the OK symbol and nazism when searching.
  - marcinzm 6y ago
    From a right wing newspaper so you can't claim liberal bias: https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/neo-nazis-among-protesters-who-stormed-us-capitol/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/neo-nazis-among-protesters-who...
    - nailer 6y ago
      I wasn't planning to (I'm a liberal) - just asking for a link. Fair enough, the man with the 'camp Auschwitz' hoodie is a nazi.
  - jakelazaroff 6y ago
    Here you go: https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wnja/neo-nazis-boast-about-participation-in-capitol-hill-invasion https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wnja/neo-nazis-boast-about...
  - outside1234 6y ago
    There is quite literally photographs of some guy with a Camp Auschwitz hoodie on.
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- nomdep 6y ago
  Calling all Trump supporters "nazis" is.
marcinzm 6y ago
This isn't politics really as I see it, it's a heads up to fellow coworkers about a factually dangerous situation in their area. There were factually neo-nazis running about DC causing havoc.
- surfer7837 6y ago
  I didn't realise they were all in DC, I thought GitHub was in the valley?
  - marcinzm 6y ago
    They are presumably fully remote right now and most large organization have multiple offices. This slack statement was from what I can tell aimed at those in DC.
  - blueplanet200 6y ago
    They’re remote, this was said in their DC slack channel.
  - eat_veggies 6y ago
    Based on the screenshot [0], the message in question was sent in the #dmv channel, which stands for the DC metropolitan area (DC, Maryland, Virginia, hence DMV). [0] https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/inUt0KKQbXWT45OMaXBLZuaAqM4=/0x0:923x1655/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:923x1655):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22238195/screen_shot_001.jpg https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/inUt0KKQbXWT45OMaXBLZuaAqM4=...
silexia 6y ago
I agree completely... Then to try to hold a "empathy circle" to resolve the concerns raised by it... Glad I don't work there!
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eat_veggies 6y ago
So a Jewish employee points out (factually!) that there are nazis at an armed attack on the capitol, and to be careful, and then gets fired for saying that. You call this "appalling from both sides?" I just have to laugh.
- surfer7837 6y ago
  a public company Slack channel is not the right place for it
  - eat_veggies 6y ago
    I didn't realize that a workplace chat was the wrong place to update one's colleagues in DC about very real threats to their safety.
  - blueplanet200 6y ago
    A public company just fired their head of HR, so I think they disagree with you here.
    - surfer7837 6y ago
      And that's their prerogative
- rottingfruit 6y ago
  I don’t mean to ask this in an accusatory gotcha way I’m just wondering what your stance is on someone warning their coworkers in Portland, or somewhere else that there are “looting communists around so be careful.” Or something similar referring to a blm protest. Do you feel this is also appropriate in a workplace channel?
  - manicdee 6y ago
    "whataboutism" is exactly an accusatory gotcha.
Simulacra 6y ago
Rules are different now. If you’re making a negative statement regarding anyone on the tight, it seems to get more support than derision.
- bastawhiz 6y ago
  Please explain how this was a "negative statement" when folks wearing "Camp Auschwitz - Staff" hoodies were rioting in DC. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shirt-photographed-u-s-capitol-riot-arrested-n1254070 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shir...
- klyrs 6y ago
  I'd prefer it if folks on the right were more offended by the presence of nazis in their ranks, than by folks pointing out the existence of those nazis.
bastawhiz 6y ago
Can you explain? On January 6 there was a man wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" hoodie with the word "staff" printed on the back, on national television. Do you believe this man is not a Nazi? And do you believe that Jewish people do not have a right to warn their coworkers to stay safe in light of people like this committing violent acts? I'm genuinely curious to understand what part you believe is political here, because it seems like the employee's message was entirely based in easily verifiable fact and genuine concern.
- surfer7837 6y ago
  I just don't think a company Slack channel is the right place for this, when tensions are high people can get upset and offended and it just creates a bad work environment. There are time and place for things like this, not over a Slack channel. I don't know about any about that, I haven't been keeping up on the news
  - bastawhiz 6y ago
    This was in their DC slack channel. Do you honestly believe that employees should avoid talking about ongoing riots in their city in their city's slack channel? I genuinely cannot believe that you'd think that an event where five people died was not appropriate for discussion in a city chat, especially to warn people to stay safe. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shirt-photographed-u-s-capitol-riot-arrested-n1254070 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shir...
  - BuildTheRobots 6y ago
    > when tensions are high people can get upset and offended People were waving swastikas, wearing camp Auschwitz hoodies, storming the capital building and beating a police officer to death with an American flag. The problem here is not calling a spade a spade. If you're offended by being termed a Nazi that possibly don't be advertising yourself as one.
  - 8fGTBjZxBcHq 6y ago
    god forbid someone create a bad work environment during a nazi coup lmao

blueplanet200 6y ago

I don’t think pointing out nazis at the capitol is politics. Healthcare policy is politics, the election is politics. Pointing out nazis at an armed insurrection? No.

nailer 6y ago
Can you show us evidence of the nazis? I can't find anything beyond somewhat obscure links between eg "Don't tread on me", "Release the kraken", the OK symbol and nazism when searching.
- marcinzm 6y ago
  From a right wing newspaper so you can't claim liberal bias: https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/neo-nazis-among-protesters-who-stormed-us-capitol/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/neo-nazis-among-protesters-who...
  - nailer 6y ago
    I wasn't planning to (I'm a liberal) - just asking for a link. Fair enough, the man with the 'camp Auschwitz' hoodie is a nazi.
- jakelazaroff 6y ago
  Here you go: https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wnja/neo-nazis-boast-about-participation-in-capitol-hill-invasion https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wnja/neo-nazis-boast-about...
- outside1234 6y ago
  There is quite literally photographs of some guy with a Camp Auschwitz hoodie on.
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nomdep 6y ago
Calling all Trump supporters "nazis" is.

marcinzm 6y ago

This isn't politics really as I see it, it's a heads up to fellow coworkers about a factually dangerous situation in their area. There were factually neo-nazis running about DC causing havoc.

surfer7837 6y ago
I didn't realise they were all in DC, I thought GitHub was in the valley?
- marcinzm 6y ago
  They are presumably fully remote right now and most large organization have multiple offices. This slack statement was from what I can tell aimed at those in DC.
- blueplanet200 6y ago
  They’re remote, this was said in their DC slack channel.
- eat_veggies 6y ago
  Based on the screenshot [0], the message in question was sent in the #dmv channel, which stands for the DC metropolitan area (DC, Maryland, Virginia, hence DMV). [0] https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/inUt0KKQbXWT45OMaXBLZuaAqM4=/0x0:923x1655/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:923x1655):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22238195/screen_shot_001.jpg https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/inUt0KKQbXWT45OMaXBLZuaAqM4=...

silexia 6y ago

I agree completely... Then to try to hold a "empathy circle" to resolve the concerns raised by it... Glad I don't work there!

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eat_veggies 6y ago

So a Jewish employee points out (factually!) that there are nazis at an armed attack on the capitol, and to be careful, and then gets fired for saying that. You call this "appalling from both sides?" I just have to laugh.

surfer7837 6y ago
a public company Slack channel is not the right place for it
- eat_veggies 6y ago
  I didn't realize that a workplace chat was the wrong place to update one's colleagues in DC about very real threats to their safety.
- blueplanet200 6y ago
  A public company just fired their head of HR, so I think they disagree with you here.
  - surfer7837 6y ago
    And that's their prerogative
rottingfruit 6y ago
I don’t mean to ask this in an accusatory gotcha way I’m just wondering what your stance is on someone warning their coworkers in Portland, or somewhere else that there are “looting communists around so be careful.” Or something similar referring to a blm protest. Do you feel this is also appropriate in a workplace channel?
- manicdee 6y ago
  "whataboutism" is exactly an accusatory gotcha.

Simulacra 6y ago

Rules are different now. If you’re making a negative statement regarding anyone on the tight, it seems to get more support than derision.

bastawhiz 6y ago
Please explain how this was a "negative statement" when folks wearing "Camp Auschwitz - Staff" hoodies were rioting in DC. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shirt-photographed-u-s-capitol-riot-arrested-n1254070 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shir...
klyrs 6y ago
I'd prefer it if folks on the right were more offended by the presence of nazis in their ranks, than by folks pointing out the existence of those nazis.

bastawhiz 6y ago

Can you explain? On January 6 there was a man wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" hoodie with the word "staff" printed on the back, on national television. Do you believe this man is not a Nazi? And do you believe that Jewish people do not have a right to warn their coworkers to stay safe in light of people like this committing violent acts? I'm genuinely curious to understand what part you believe is political here, because it seems like the employee's message was entirely based in easily verifiable fact and genuine concern.

surfer7837 6y ago
I just don't think a company Slack channel is the right place for this, when tensions are high people can get upset and offended and it just creates a bad work environment. There are time and place for things like this, not over a Slack channel. I don't know about any about that, I haven't been keeping up on the news
- bastawhiz 6y ago
  This was in their DC slack channel. Do you honestly believe that employees should avoid talking about ongoing riots in their city in their city's slack channel? I genuinely cannot believe that you'd think that an event where five people died was not appropriate for discussion in a city chat, especially to warn people to stay safe. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shirt-photographed-u-s-capitol-riot-arrested-n1254070 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-camp-auschwitz-shir...
- BuildTheRobots 6y ago
  > when tensions are high people can get upset and offended People were waving swastikas, wearing camp Auschwitz hoodies, storming the capital building and beating a police officer to death with an American flag. The problem here is not calling a spade a spade. If you're offended by being termed a Nazi that possibly don't be advertising yourself as one.
- 8fGTBjZxBcHq 6y ago
  god forbid someone create a bad work environment during a nazi coup lmao