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Google has absolutely abandoned things in their cloud. App Engine has been a moving target for years for just one example.

by jshen 6y ago

Crash0v3rid3 6y ago
Can you give a more clear example of what GCP has dropped support for?
- Strom 6y ago
  Google provides a list of App Engine features they've removed. [1] Beyond that there is also a somewhat undocumented phase of working-but-forgotten. Classic App Engine features like the datastore, memcache, Users API, Python 2, Go 1.11 etc go under this category. These are things that still work, but get no updates. Instead you get constant e-mails and other notifications about how you should redesign your app to work with the 2nd generation App Engine system. Which means Firestore (in datastore mode) instead of datastore. Memorystore instead of memcache. Your own solution instead of the Users API etc. -- [1] https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations
  - jshen 6y ago
    Yes, this. Thank you for explaining it better than I did. I loved this with a real production python 2 app, and my take-away, be very careful building against proprietary systems like classic app engine and all of its services.
    - jshen 6y ago
      *lived
- jshen 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25854364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25854364
bedatadriven 6y ago
I beg to differ. We've run our business on AppEngine for 8+ years. We've never been forced to migrate, and when we've chosen to upgrade to newer runtimes like Java8, the transition was smooth. Upgrading to Java11 will indeed be a big change, but Java8, with memcache etc, is still very much supported.
- jshen 6y ago
  I led a team that wrote an app app engine using python 2. When Google upgraded to python 3 they completely rewrote entire libraries, like the one for datastore, so we were forced to either rewrite most of our app or to stay on a deprecated platform that stopped getting new updates.

Google has absolutely abandoned things in their cloud. App Engine has been a moving target for years for just one example.

by jshen 6y ago

Google has absolutely abandoned things in their cloud. App Engine has been a moving target for years for just one example.

Crash0v3rid3 6y ago

Can you give a more clear example of what GCP has dropped support for?

Strom 6y ago
Google provides a list of App Engine features they've removed. [1] Beyond that there is also a somewhat undocumented phase of working-but-forgotten. Classic App Engine features like the datastore, memcache, Users API, Python 2, Go 1.11 etc go under this category. These are things that still work, but get no updates. Instead you get constant e-mails and other notifications about how you should redesign your app to work with the 2nd generation App Engine system. Which means Firestore (in datastore mode) instead of datastore. Memorystore instead of memcache. Your own solution instead of the Users API etc. -- [1] https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations
- jshen 6y ago
  Yes, this. Thank you for explaining it better than I did. I loved this with a real production python 2 app, and my take-away, be very careful building against proprietary systems like classic app engine and all of its services.
  - jshen 6y ago
    *lived
jshen 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25854364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25854364

bedatadriven 6y ago

I beg to differ. We've run our business on AppEngine for 8+ years. We've never been forced to migrate, and when we've chosen to upgrade to newer runtimes like Java8, the transition was smooth. Upgrading to Java11 will indeed be a big change, but Java8, with memcache etc, is still very much supported.

jshen 6y ago
I led a team that wrote an app app engine using python 2. When Google upgraded to python 3 they completely rewrote entire libraries, like the one for datastore, so we were forced to either rewrite most of our app or to stay on a deprecated platform that stopped getting new updates.