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>Seriously? You blame me for using the very example you brought up in the first place? Well, that's a new low. My very first comment was not about Parler but i

by vimy 6y ago

>Seriously? You blame me for using the very example you brought up in the first place? Well, that's a new low. My very first comment was not about Parler but in general. Which you keep misunderstanding. You also seem to not understand the difference between the ideal of free speech and the law. When I'm talking about free speech I'm not talking about the government. >Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. The term "freedom of expression" is sometimes used synonymously but includes any act of seeking, receiving, and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. Nor is the definition of freedom of speech mentioning anything about the government.

TulliusCicero 6y ago
Actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_Unite... > Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government. You're welcome to check how the principle of free speech is protected in other democracies as well. I think you'll find it's largely the same: it's about government interference, not the freedom to say whatever you want within any business. > My very first comment was not about Parler but in general. Which you keep misunderstanding. No, your first comment was implicitly comparing the content of the article this thread is based on -- which is about Parler -- with the ACLU defending Nazis marching in the streets. Which is an absurd comparison that ignores the historical definition of free speech.
- blakjak44 6y ago
  > Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government. > You're welcome to check how the principle of free speech is protected in other democracies as well. I think you'll find it's largely the same: it's about government interference, not the freedom to say whatever you want within any business. And if a private platform bans a form of speech at the behest of the government, would it then be considered government interference?

by vimy 6y ago

TulliusCicero 6y ago

Actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_Unite... > Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government. You're welcome to check how the principle of free speech is protected in other democracies as well. I think you'll find it's largely the same: it's about government interference, not the freedom to say whatever you want within any business. > My very first comment was not about Parler but in general. Which you keep misunderstanding. No, your first comment was implicitly comparing the content of the article this thread is based on -- which is about Parler -- with the ACLU defending Nazis marching in the streets. Which is an absurd comparison that ignores the historical definition of free speech.

blakjak44 6y ago
> Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government. > You're welcome to check how the principle of free speech is protected in other democracies as well. I think you'll find it's largely the same: it's about government interference, not the freedom to say whatever you want within any business. And if a private platform bans a form of speech at the behest of the government, would it then be considered government interference?