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Cameras are used for multiple professional purposes, including videography and commercial photography. SD cards are also used in devices such as Zoom audio reco

Cameras are used for multiple professional purposes, including videography and commercial photography. SD cards are also used in devices such as Zoom audio recorders, which I often use for recording music. Especially right now, I'll loan a Zoom and a nice mic to a musician so that they can record tracks for me remotely. They're also the standard boot device for computers like the Raspberry Pi. Basically, they're a professional tool which one might expect in a professional laptop.

plussed_reader 6y ago
Apple stopped catering to that kind of professional when Jobs died.
- foobarian 6y ago
  Apple is taking away ports so their devices will be more likely to survive falling into water. That is the kind of "professional" Apple is catering to.
  - llampx 6y ago
    Is a Macbook Pro from 2020 more likely to survive falling into water than one from 2015?
mumblemumble 6y ago
Even there, though, there are many competing standards. My MacBook has an SD card reader, but I need an adapter to plug the microSD cards from my Raspberry Pi into it. My camera's CompactFlash cards require a USB adapter. To use the high-speed SD cards, I need to bypass the built-in SD card port and use a USB adapter, anyway. So it turns out it's easier to just buy a multi-card adapter. My computer's built-in SD port never gets any use anymore, not even for full-size, non-UHC SD cards.
derefr 6y ago
Regarding videography: professional digital video isn’t usually recorded to SD cards (nor was it ever, ever since “professional digital video” became a thing.) 4K RAW was “too big” when that was what videographers worked with; and 8K RAW is “too big” now. It’s not just that you’ll fill up the card before you’re done a single recording session; often an SD card just won’t have the IO bandwidth to persist writes at the speed the camera wants to stream them in at. (How do smartphones do it? By having lots of RAM for buffering, and expecting that you won’t record for very long.) The SD Forum is always trying to bring new SD interfaces to market to up the total bandwidth; but the needs of professional videography always outpace the implementations of those standards arriving in the market. What we do instead: • DSLRs, when used as video cameras in professional workflows, are usually wired directly to a computer, streaming down the wire like a webcam. • Purpose-built professional video cameras record directly to SSDs (either regular ones, like Samsung T7s; or proprietary ones, like RED’s “mini-mags”) that you’re expected to mount to your computer over USB — either by them being regular USB3 devices themselves; or, in the proprietary case, by the manufacturer selling a USB dock you’re supposed to buy for your editing workstations. Regarding commercial photography: SD cards have gotten so large — and wi-fi sync so fast — that even the largest RAW photos sync instantly and hardly make a dent in your storage. There’s no real point in taking a 512GB SD card out of a camera. Keep in mind, integrated ports are only really a demand of professionals when urgent, portable connectivity is a requirement; i.e. when even the time required to find and plug in a dongle would be SLAs broken and revenue lost. This was a true need for professional photography when SD cards were small, as you’d often fill up an SD card in the field and need to “dump it out” onto your laptop to continue shooting (or swap it for another while handing off the first to your editor to establish a pipeline.) Today, it’s not. None of the other tasks you listed have ever been urgent, in-the-field tasks; they’re tasks where you do have time to go back home/to the office, and plug in an SD-card reader dongle to do the task.
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plussed_reader 6y ago

Apple stopped catering to that kind of professional when Jobs died.

foobarian 6y ago
Apple is taking away ports so their devices will be more likely to survive falling into water. That is the kind of "professional" Apple is catering to.
- llampx 6y ago
  Is a Macbook Pro from 2020 more likely to survive falling into water than one from 2015?

mumblemumble 6y ago

Even there, though, there are many competing standards. My MacBook has an SD card reader, but I need an adapter to plug the microSD cards from my Raspberry Pi into it. My camera's CompactFlash cards require a USB adapter. To use the high-speed SD cards, I need to bypass the built-in SD card port and use a USB adapter, anyway. So it turns out it's easier to just buy a multi-card adapter. My computer's built-in SD port never gets any use anymore, not even for full-size, non-UHC SD cards.

derefr 6y ago

Regarding videography: professional digital video isn’t usually recorded to SD cards (nor was it ever, ever since “professional digital video” became a thing.) 4K RAW was “too big” when that was what videographers worked with; and 8K RAW is “too big” now. It’s not just that you’ll fill up the card before you’re done a single recording session; often an SD card just won’t have the IO bandwidth to persist writes at the speed the camera wants to stream them in at. (How do smartphones do it? By having lots of RAM for buffering, and expecting that you won’t record for very long.) The SD Forum is always trying to bring new SD interfaces to market to up the total bandwidth; but the needs of professional videography always outpace the implementations of those standards arriving in the market. What we do instead: • DSLRs, when used as video cameras in professional workflows, are usually wired directly to a computer, streaming down the wire like a webcam. • Purpose-built professional video cameras record directly to SSDs (either regular ones, like Samsung T7s; or proprietary ones, like RED’s “mini-mags”) that you’re expected to mount to your computer over USB — either by them being regular USB3 devices themselves; or, in the proprietary case, by the manufacturer selling a USB dock you’re supposed to buy for your editing workstations. Regarding commercial photography: SD cards have gotten so large — and wi-fi sync so fast — that even the largest RAW photos sync instantly and hardly make a dent in your storage. There’s no real point in taking a 512GB SD card out of a camera. Keep in mind, integrated ports are only really a demand of professionals when urgent, portable connectivity is a requirement; i.e. when even the time required to find and plug in a dongle would be SLAs broken and revenue lost. This was a true need for professional photography when SD cards were small, as you’d often fill up an SD card in the field and need to “dump it out” onto your laptop to continue shooting (or swap it for another while handing off the first to your editor to establish a pipeline.) Today, it’s not. None of the other tasks you listed have ever been urgent, in-the-field tasks; they’re tasks where you do have time to go back home/to the office, and plug in an SD-card reader dongle to do the task.

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